Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-11 Thread Rocky Hotas
First, thank you for all the explanations in this thread. They were very clarifying. On lug 05 6:26, Robert Elz wrote: [...] > An insignificant difference is that FFSv2 has the totally useless birthtime > timestamp added (which ought to be removed again...) What do you mean here by

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 4 Jul 2019 22:25:11 +0200 From:Rhialto Message-ID: <20190704202511.gd11...@falu.nl> | What is "fslevel 5"? fslevel(8) only explains up to level 4. In fact it | even claims "Note that FFSv2 file systems are always level 4." The level is a constructed

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 3 Jul 2019 21:26:35 - (UTC) From:mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) Message-ID: | FFSv1 also has a 32bit (or rather 31bit) limit. Since it counts fragments, | not physical disk blocks, the effective limit for the filesystem size | varies

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 3 Jul 2019 19:43:20 +0200 From:tlaro...@polynum.com Message-ID: <20190703174320.ga7...@polynum.com> | But if somebody had numbers about tests comparing FFSv1 and FFSv2 and | the efficiency (for formatting, FFSv1 pre-allocates (ie: zeroes) all of the

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Michael van Elst
mueller6...@twc.com ("Thomas Mueller") writes: >I looked using ls -la / and ls -la //root and found >no .attribute subdirectory. I ran dumpfs to verify whether the file system >was UFS1 or UFS2. Have a look at the exattrctl command. It's used to create the attribute storage. -- --

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Thomas Mueller
//root and found no .attribute subdirectory. I ran dumpfs to verify whether the file system was UFS1 or UFS2. Subject did not appear on my last post because of either a mouse copy-and-paste error or accidentally deleting S in Subject from the keyboard. Header line appeared as ubject: R

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread Rhialto
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 12:21:39 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > newfs(8) and fsck_ffs(8) explain this, although I can see that it's > slightly hard to follow. Basically, retrocomputing aside, there is > > - UFS1 level 4, which has a "FFSv2-format superblock" > - UFS2 What is "fslevel 5"?

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-04 Thread tlaronde
Hello, On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 09:26:35PM -, Michael van Elst wrote: > tlaro...@polynum.com writes: > > >I guess that my uncertainty about FFSv1 vs FFSv2 comes partly from this > >confusion between fdisk(8) vs gpt(8) and the 32bits limit and the > >mention of > 1To in newfs(8) man page. >

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread Michael van Elst
tlaro...@polynum.com writes: >I guess that my uncertainty about FFSv1 vs FFSv2 comes partly from this >confusion between fdisk(8) vs gpt(8) and the 32bits limit and the >mention of > 1To in newfs(8) man page. FFSv1 also has a 32bit (or rather 31bit) limit. Since it counts fragments, not

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 12:13:05AM +0700, Gua Chung Lim wrote: > > If the partition is more than 2To, will the FFSv1 be unable to access > > some blocks? > AFAIK, FFS or FFS2 suports pretty big slice (much bigger than 2TB). > The actual limitation is MBR. Maybe you have to use GPT. > Correct me.

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread Gua Chung Lim
> If the partition is more than 2To, will the FFSv1 be unable to access > some blocks? AFAIK, FFS or FFS2 suports pretty big slice (much bigger than 2TB). The actual limitation is MBR. Maybe you have to use GPT. Correct me. if I'm wrong. -- Gua Chung Lim "UNIX is basically a simple operating

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread tlaronde
Hello, On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 12:21:39PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > tlaro...@polynum.com writes: > > > I was assuming (don't know why) that when newfs(8)'ing a partition with > > more than 1To, the format would be, automatically FFSv2, FFSv1 being > > the default otherwise. > > newfs(8) and

Re: FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread Greg Troxel
tlaro...@polynum.com writes: > I was assuming (don't know why) that when newfs(8)'ing a partition with > more than 1To, the format would be, automatically FFSv2, FFSv1 being > the default otherwise. newfs(8) and fsck_ffs(8) explain this, although I can see that it's slightly hard to follow.

FFSv1 (UFS1) vs FFSv2 (UFS2)

2019-07-03 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I was assuming (don't know why) that when newfs(8)'ing a partition with more than 1To, the format would be, automatically FFSv2, FFSv1 being the default otherwise. Dumpfs(8) is a bit confusing since the superblock are said to be FFSv2, while the filesystem is identified as FFSv1. So I