Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-23 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Greg A. Woods wrote in : |At Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:41:11 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso \ |wrote: |Subject: Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP |> |> SPF should never have been introduced | |I agree _VERY_ much! It still does absolutely nothing to reduce SMTP |abuse or increase

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:41:11 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Subject: Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP > > SPF should never have been introduced I agree _VERY_ much! It still does absolutely nothing to reduce SMTP abuse or increase trust in any way what

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Rhialto writes: > The trouble with plain forwarding is that my mail server's domain name > doesn't match the domain name in the From: header, and doesn't match the > envelope FROM domain, and it doesn't match the SPF policy of the sender > domain etc etc. Those are things that are checked by

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
5:08 +0200, Rhialto wrote: |Subject: Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP |> |> and neither can you change the |> envelope FROM address because bounces (as far as they happen) won't work. | |I haven't verified this works right with Postfix, but if you're doing |forwarding wi

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
First off let me second what Steffen says! At Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:15:08 +0200, Rhialto wrote: Subject: Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP > > and neither can you change the > envelope FROM address because bounces (as far as they happen) won't work. I haven't verified this wo

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Rhialto wrote in : |On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 11:20:59 -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: |> Just keep doing what you're doing. Anything else _is_ more roundabout. |> Why complicate things? SMTP forwarding is the way to keep it working! | |I agree with you in spirit. Plain forwarding is a basic

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Rhialto
On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 11:20:59 -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > Just keep doing what you're doing. Anything else _is_ more roundabout. > Why complicate things? SMTP forwarding is the way to keep it working! I agree with you in spirit. Plain forwarding is a basic feature of SMTP. BUT. The trouble

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:39:05 +0200, Rhialto wrote: Subject: Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP > > On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 19:29:13 +0200, Hauke Fath (SPG) wrote: > > You would have to have a local delivery > > agent that (working with stored user credentials) al

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:27:05 +0200, Rhialto wrote: Subject: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP > > I have a local IMAP server running as well, so I could deliver to that > and then do an IMAP-move, but that seems rather roundabout and requires > creating some service which

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Rhialto
On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 19:29:13 +0200, Hauke Fath (SPG) wrote: > On 2024-04-22 18:27, Rhialto wrote: > > Since mails can be transferred from one IMAP server to another, > > ... by an IMAP client, or server? Client. Even dovecot (which I already use) has something like that already: dsync(1) or

Re: Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Hauke Fath (SPG)
On 2024-04-22 18:27, Rhialto wrote: Since mails can be transferred from one IMAP server to another, ... by an IMAP client, or server? I know it is possible to inject emails into IMAP mailboxes. Yes, with a local delivery agent, on behalf of the local MTA. Or from within an IMAP client -

Mail delivery from Postfix to remote IMAP

2024-04-22 Thread Rhialto
I am providing family with an email address on my server. So far I deliver their mail by forwarding it to their ISP, by using a time-honoured standard forward. However, thanks to the fantastic invention of DKIM and SPF and that sort of things, that is breaking more and more. For now I work