Martin Husemann writes:
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 06:04:48AM +, Jan Icetrov wrote:
>> Autoconfigure is also strange with wired connections. It doesn't let you
>> choose hostname or disable ipv6, which in turn makes pkgin install
>> impossible if you have ipv6 on your LAN but ipv4 only uplink.
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:00:14AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> It seems that setting up a wireless connection with ifconfig and
> wpa_supplicant is much simpler in FreeBSD than in NetBSD; not sure
> about Linux.
I would say there is no difference, but I'd like to avoid needing the
shell here at
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:23:59PM -0700, Salil Wadnerkar wrote:
> > I also want to raise one issue about the install.
> > When we try to configure networking, it lets us choose the interface and
> > when we select wireless interface, asks us to choose autoconfigure, or
> > configure everything m
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 06:04:48AM +, Jan Icetrov wrote:
> Autoconfigure is also strange with wired connections. It doesn't let you
> choose hostname or disable ipv6, which in turn makes pkgin install
> impossible if you have ipv6 on your LAN but ipv4 only uplink.
That sounds more like a bug i
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To: "Martin Husemann"
Cc: "Rhialto" ; "Robert Nestor" ;
"NetBSD Users"
Sent: 2020. 05. 13. 22:23:59
Subject: Re: NetBSD install experiences
I also want to raise one issue about the install.
When we try to configure networking, it lets us choose the inter
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:23:59PM -0700, Salil Wadnerkar wrote:
> I also want to raise one issue about the install.
> When we try to configure networking, it lets us choose the interface and
> when we select wireless interface, asks us to choose autoconfigure, or
> configure everything manually. I
My biggest issue with installing NetBSD, or any other BSD, has been with my
own understanding (or misunderstanding) of partition tables, and MBR vs
GPT. The second biggest issue is the BIOS & the age of the computer.
UEFI uses the GPT partition table and is the so called "modern way", mainly
becau
I also want to raise one issue about the install.
When we try to configure networking, it lets us choose the interface and
when we select wireless interface, asks us to choose autoconfigure, or
configure everything manually. In autoconfigure, it doesn't even ask which
wireless network I want to con
Hi,
Torbjörn Granlund wrote:
> Please consider working on the NetBSD install experience! Now even I,
> who is far from a newbie and have tons of patience, consider giving up.
> If this had been my first experience with NetBSD, I would have given up
> long before I had arrived to ISSUE 5, I'm afr
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 08:59:44PM +0200, Rhialto wrote:
> On the other hand, when you're doing an update, I had to guess whether I
> should select the GPT partition that was my root partition, or the whole
> disk. I guessed the root partition and apparently that was correct :-)
I think both work
On Wed 13 May 2020 at 07:03:41 +0200, Martin Husemann wrote:
> You actually *can* install to some existing GPT partition, e.g. dk0 or dk1,
> and it should just work (but you can not sub-partition dk* devices). The
> installer handles this special case.
>
> But you also can select "wd0" as the targ
At Wed, 13 May 2020 07:03:41 +0200, Martin Husemann wrote:
Subject: Re: NetBSD install experiences
>
> That means in a very minimal setup where you boot from an UEFI install
> image on USB and you have a target SATA disk that already has some GPT
> partitions you would get devices li
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 07:41:45AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I realize this is a major change, but I wonder about the installer
> having an option to zeroize the disk, so that if someone is trying to
> do an install getting rid of everything, they can, and then not have
> these issues.
Yes, I pl
Martin Husemann writes:
> That means in a very minimal setup where you boot from an UEFI install
> image on USB and you have a target SATA disk that already has some GPT
> partitions you would get devices like:
>
> sd0 the USB stick you booted from
> wd0 the SATA disk
> dk0 some GPT partiti
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:14:52PM -0500, Robert Nestor wrote:
> With GPT, at least on a disk that already has some GPT wedges,
> it seems one selects GPT wedges to ?partition?, not the disk.
> At least it seemed to me that all the existing GPT wedges were
> displayed and I don?t recall seeing an o
Not knocking the tremendous work Martin has done maintaining and extending the
Installer, but the GPT handling in 9.x/-current did seem a bit confusing to me.
It could be just me and my understanding, but the last time I tried it there
seemed to be a disconnect between the way an MBR disk is se
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 02:07:18PM -0400, MLH wrote:
> Thanks. Maybe my bios is just too old. It doesn't boot efi correctly
> and maybe it doesn't quite handle gpt partitions quite correctly
> either. Might be why I had so much trouble with that. I still
> haven't found a way to have the biosboot
Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:10:21PM -0400, MLH wrote:
> > Hmm. I tried the -current installer and though it appeared to
> > indicate it could, I couldn't determine how to without manually
> > creating the gpt partitions.
>
> See the top part about 9.0 here:
>
> http:
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 18:38, Martin Husemann wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:10:21PM -0400, MLH wrote:
> > Hmm. I tried the -current installer and though it appeared to
> > indicate it could, I couldn't determine how to without manually
> > creating the gpt partitions.
In case it might be
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:10:21PM -0400, MLH wrote:
> Hmm. I tried the -current installer and though it appeared to
> indicate it could, I couldn't determine how to without manually
> creating the gpt partitions.
See the top part about 9.0 here:
http://wiki.netbsd.org/Installation_on_UEF
Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:51:41AM -0400, MLH wrote:
> > One thing I would like to see is to have the installer be able to
> > use gpt to parition and install on large disks when mbr can't be
> > used, both for efi and ffs biosbooting.
>
> It can do that (with 9.0 or newe
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:51:41AM -0400, MLH wrote:
> One thing I would like to see is to have the installer be able to
> use gpt to parition and install on large disks when mbr can't be
> used, both for efi and ffs biosbooting.
It can do that (with 9.0 or newer).
Martin
One thing I would like to see is to have the installer be able to
use gpt to parition and install on large disks when mbr can't be
used, both for efi and ffs biosbooting.
Thanks for your explanations, Robert, I now better understand some
issues I recently ran into.
As for the packaging system, it is certainly the greatest weakness of
the whole BSD family, not only NetBSD.
Am 11/05/2020 um 21:56 schrieb Robert Nestor:
I’m not sure if this is still true, but it
I’m not sure if this is still true, but it was in the past.
The NetBSD installer used to get confused about partitioning if one was trying
to install a new NetBSD system on a disk that had previously contained an
installation of some other system like OpenBSD, FreeBSD or Linux. This was on
MBR
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:55:28AM -0700, Salil Wadnerkar wrote:
> 1. I had OpenBSD and NetBSD installed on it (NetBSD, because I wanted to
> dual boot, but I could not get the dual boot working. So, I decided to just
> go with NetBSD). NetBSD installer mounted these partitions (or slices in
> BSD
I also just tried installing NetBSD 9.0 stable UEFI version yesterday on my
laptop, and gave up after it segfaulted on me a couple of times.
Two issues I faced:
1. I had OpenBSD and NetBSD installed on it (NetBSD, because I wanted to
dual boot, but I could not get the dual boot working. So, I decid
On Mon, 11 May 2020 12:00:12 +0200
t...@gmplib.org (Torbjörn Granlund) wrote:
> Please consider working on the NetBSD install experience! Now even I,
> who is far from a newbie and have tons of patience, consider giving
> up. If this had been my first experience with NetBSD, I would have
> given
I also had tons of package installation problems of the same kind for
weeks... Until I tried and use the German mirror and everything worked fine.
This means that between Feb. 14th and Apr. 25th, I've been unable to
install NetBSD 9.0, and I've finally succeeded just by chance.
I'm happy I've
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:00:12PM +0200, Torbjörn Granlund wrote:
> But 9.0 is completely wild. One gets crazy values if one selects
> Megabytes as input measurement, and not the same for amd64 and i386! I
> asked for NetBSD partition start of 1MB and got something greater than
> both MB and Mib
What is the best way of keeping current users and welcoming new users?
I believe with a well-working install program, including package
install. Or, negating that, poorly a working install program is a god
way of turning people away.
I assume everyone agrees thus far.
I have installed NetBSD hu
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