Re: Serial console setup

2017-01-03 Thread Alex D
On Dec 23, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Julian H. Stacey > > BTW Later Bill Jollitz back at UCB was author of BSD386 free software > & articles published in a USA mag. (possibly Byte?) later translated > in a German mag. (possibly CT ?). There was later a commercial > offshoot. Somewhere

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-24 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 08:36:47PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Note that there are two separate issues with modem control. One is > rts/cts. Probably that is not your problem if text is being output. > The other is that traditionally, the open from getty on the device did > not succeed until

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Michael van Elst
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:46:19AM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Are you saying that the console device itself will refrain from output > if either DSR or CD is not asserted? I can see the point of DSR but > requiring CD for a console seems non-helpful. The serial port is meant to control a

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> whatever reason. I haven't seen it on the newer VMAX chassis, but the > older Symmetrix "DMX" line used modems quite a bit and people still use It seems there's a dual usage of word Symmetrix, Maybe yours is EMC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Symmetrix#See_also Symmetrix for me

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, Greg Troxel wrote: You are not really wrong in theory. Heh, whew. There, getty waiting for open to succeed until CD was asserted made sense, especially when the modem/line was shared with outgoing UUCP. Oh, I get what you are saying. Even back in the day I rarely put

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Swift Griggs writes: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Are you saying that the console device itself will refrain from >> output if either DSR or CD is not asserted? I can see the point of >> DSR but requiring CD for a console seems non-helpful. > > Hmm, out

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, Greg Troxel wrote: Are you saying that the console device itself will refrain from output if either DSR or CD is not asserted? I can see the point of DSR but requiring CD for a console seems non-helpful. Hmm, out of ignorance, ('cause I wouldn't gainsay you, Greg!) why?

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Greg Troxel
mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) writes: >>I always use crossover cables that ensure CD is asserted by wiring >>both DSR and CD to the DTR pin of the other end, but if yours doesn't, >>I would have thought the "local" keyword in /etc/ttys would take care >>of that. Or maybe you need to use

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Michael van Elst
g...@gson.org (Andreas Gustafsson) writes: >j...@sdf.org wrote: >> Also, I was looking through the mlist archives and saw mention that >> /dev/console was suppose to be replaced by /dev/constty ? Maybe that's >> the issue? >I don't think so, since the stock /etc/ttys has >console

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-23 Thread Andreas Gustafsson
j...@sdf.org wrote: > Also, I was looking through the mlist archives and saw mention that > /dev/console was suppose to be replaced by /dev/constty ? Maybe that's > the issue? I don't think so, since the stock /etc/ttys has console "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" vt100 on secure constty

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-22 Thread jgw
Greg Troxel wrote: > > j...@sdf.org writes: > .. > > #/var/log/messages > > .. > > Dec 20 .. /netbsd: com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16550a, working > > fifo > > Dec 20 .. /netbsd: com0: console > > I guess that second line shows things are ok > > > #/boot.cfg > > .. > >

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-22 Thread Greg Troxel
j...@sdf.org writes: > #/var/log/messages > .. > Dec 20 .. /netbsd: com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16550a, working fifo > Dec 20 .. /netbsd: com0: console I guess that second line shows things are ok > #/boot.cfg > .. > menu=Boot Wyse 60:consdev auto;rndseed /var/db/entropy-file;boot

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-22 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, j...@sdf.org wrote: I'm wanting to connect an actual serial terminal (Wyse 60; VT100 mode) to a small i386 PC running NetBSD 7.99.25 (snapshot w/ GENERIC kernel). I used to have a Wyse 60, as well. I think mine was the "paper white" model. I used it for years as a

Re: Serial console setup

2016-12-22 Thread jgw
Andreas Gustafsson wrote: > j...@sdf.org wrote: > > I'm wanting to connect an actual serial terminal (Wyse 60; VT100 mode) to > > a small i386 PC running NetBSD 7.99.25 (snapshot w/ GENERIC kernel). The > > cable is a straight serial, DB9 (PC COM port) to DB9-DB25 (Wyse MODEM > >

Serial console setup

2016-12-22 Thread jgw
Hi, I'm wanting to connect an actual serial terminal (Wyse 60; VT100 mode) to a small i386 PC running NetBSD 7.99.25 (snapshot w/ GENERIC kernel). The cable is a straight serial, DB9 (PC COM port) to DB9-DB25 (Wyse MODEM port). I added a 'consdev auto' entry to /boot.cfg (see below) which seems