Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-09-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: What about something like this? I'm not sure if the addition to sym_init is desirable... I also had to prefix _ to the name for now otherwise it conflicts badly with the current symbols. It

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-09-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Sam Ravnborg wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 06:44:06AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: while (1) { printf(%*s%s , indent - 1, , menu-prompt-text); + switch (sym-maturity) { + case M_EXPERIMENTAL: +

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, not the the Kconfig files. Good luck. I'd still like to see it. yes, i understand

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, not the the Kconfig files. Good luck.

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jeff Garzik
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:05:57 +0100 Simon Arlott wrote: On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, not the the Kconfig

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 31 2007 14:06, Jeff Garzik wrote: something like BROKEN, though, has *nothing* to do with maturity. a feature can be any of those maturity levels, and simultaneously be BROKEN. i consider BROKEN to be what i call a status, and different status levels might be the default of normal,

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm sure i'm going to get shouted down here, but i really disagree with BROKEN being considered a maturity level. IMHO, things like EXPERIMENTAL, DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE represent maturity levels, for what i think are

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: What I like about the patch is that it associates some kconfig symbol with prompt strings, so that we don't have to edit (EXPERIMENTAL) all the darn time (e.g.). I'd be quite happy with calling it status rather than maturity, and with being able to

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: What I like about the patch is that it associates some kconfig symbol with prompt strings, so that we don't have to edit (EXPERIMENTAL) all the darn time (e.g.). I'd be quite

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Jeff Garzik
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm sure i'm going to get shouted down here, but i really disagree with BROKEN being considered a maturity level. IMHO, things like EXPERIMENTAL, DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE represent maturity levels, for

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-08-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: 'deprecrated' and 'obsolete' are matters of discussed opinion, describing the utility of the code in question. 'broken' describes the state of the code itself. Clear difference. precisely. thank you for making my point for me. rday --

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 05:18:20PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT)

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same functionality... well, this is the *third* time i've proposed adding this kind of feature so, at this point, i've

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same functionality... well, this is the *third* time i've proposed adding this kind of

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the kconfig code when plain dependencies already offer exactly the same functionality... well, this is the

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Stefan Richter
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i *did* submit a preliminary patch once upon a time, and it (predictably) went nowhere. A patch which pulls the word experimental into prompts or adds a dedicated directive for tagging of options? Can't find it in archives. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== -=== =--==

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I would consider it more ugly to special case this and that in the kconfig code when plain

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... I would consider it more ugly to special case this and

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Simon Arlott wrote: On 19/07/07 17:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: I think that Stefan means a patch to the kconfig source code, not the the Kconfig files. Good luck. I'd still like to see it. yes, i understand what he wanted

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i *really* wish folks would give serious thought to my earlier suggestion about a maturity level attribute

[PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Gabriel C
Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. Signed-off-by: Gabriel Craciunescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- drivers/net/irda/Kconfig | 14 +++--- drivers/net/usb/Kconfig |4 ++-- drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i *really* wish folks would give

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically. I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan? Speaking specifically to adding 'EXPERIMENTAL', I

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Gabriel C
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Gabriel C wrote: Everything 'depends on' EXPERIMENTAL should be marked as such, visible in the menus. rather than add all that extraneous dreck to the Kconfig files, i *really* wish folks would give serious thought to my earlier suggestion

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Dunlap
Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically. I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan? Speaking specifically to adding

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically. I like it. Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan?

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be done automatically.

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: there's no point adding all that redundant

Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

2007-07-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: If you are not doing it, noone might do it. And discusing improvements noone will implement is somehow pointless... sure, i'm willing to help, but i don't think doing *nothing* about it is an option. you may not like gabriel's proposed patch, but you