RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-16 Thread Greg Scott
@vger.kernel.org; Bart Samwel; Alan Cox; Simon Mackinlay Subject: Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:07:43 -0800 Chris Wedgwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:00:41AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > There still is

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-16 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:07:43 -0800 Chris Wedgwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:00:41AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > There still is a bug in the 3c59x driver. It doesn't include any > > code to handle changing the mac address. It will work if you take > > the

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-16 Thread Chris Wedgwood
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:00:41AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > There still is a bug in the 3c59x driver. It doesn't include any > code to handle changing the mac address. It will work if you take > the device down, change address, then bring it up. But you shouldn't > have to do that. I s

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:35:50 EST, "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" said: > Bst... Not! There are not any MAC addresses associated with any > of the intercity links, usually not even in WANs! MAC is for > Ethernet! Once you go to fiber, ATM, T-N, etc., there are no > MAC addresses. This will come as

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-14 Thread Greg Scott
kernel.org; Alan Cox; Simon Mackinlay Subject: Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Bart Samwel wrote: > linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Greg Scott wrote: >> Bst... Not! There are not any MAC addresses associated with

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-14 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Bart Samwel wrote: > linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Greg Scott wrote: >> Bst... Not! There are not any MAC addresses associated with any >> of the intercity links, usually not even in WANs! MAC is for >> Ethernet! Once you go to fiber, ATM, T-N, e

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-14 Thread Simon Mackinlay
> Bt. According to WikiPedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address > > MAC addresses are used for: > > - Token ring > - 802.11 wireless networks > - Bluetooth > - FDDI > - ATM (switched virtual connections only, as part of an NSAP address) > - SCSI and Fibre Channel (as part of a Wor

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-14 Thread Bart Samwel
linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Greg Scott wrote: Bst... Not! There are not any MAC addresses associated with any of the intercity links, usually not even in WANs! MAC is for Ethernet! Once you go to fiber, ATM, T-N, etc., there are no MAC addresses. Bt. According t

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
t; > -Original Message- > From: Rick Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:50 PM > To: linux-os (Dick Johnson) > Cc: Greg Scott; Chuck Ebbert; linux-kernel; netdev@vger.kernel.org; Bart > Samwel; Alan Cox; Simon Mackinlay > Subject: Re: Router sto

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Greg Scott
iginal Message- From: Rick Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:50 PM To: linux-os (Dick Johnson) Cc: Greg Scott; Chuck Ebbert; linux-kernel; netdev@vger.kernel.org; Bart Samwel; Alan Cox; Simon Mackinlay Subject: Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Randy.Dunlap
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:27:26 -0500 linux-os \(Dick Johnson\) wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > There still is a bug in the 3c59x driver. It doesn't include any code > > to handle changing the mac address. It will work if you take the device > > down, change address

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Jones
> Anyway, if the device fails, you have routers and hosts ARPing the interface, trying to establish a route anyway. But only after what may be a much longer time than the customer is willing to accept or able to configure. I know of a number of HA situations where the "new" device is given t

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Greg Scott wrote: > But in a failover scenario you want two devices to have the same IEEE > (station) Address (or MAC Address or hardware address). So many names > for the same thing! > > When the primary unit fails, you want the backup unit to completely > assume the failed

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Greg Scott
But in a failover scenario you want two devices to have the same IEEE (station) Address (or MAC Address or hardware address). So many names for the same thing! When the primary unit fails, you want the backup unit to completely assume the failed unit's identity - right down to the MAC Address.

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > There still is a bug in the 3c59x driver. It doesn't include any code > to handle changing the mac address. It will work if you take the device > down, change address, then bring it up. But you shouldn't have to do that. > > Also, if the driver ha

Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Stephen Hemminger
There still is a bug in the 3c59x driver. It doesn't include any code to handle changing the mac address. It will work if you take the device down, change address, then bring it up. But you shouldn't have to do that. Also, if the driver handles setting mac address, it could have prevented you fr

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Greg Scott
n HBEAT_FLG=1 echo "$(date) No heartbeat detected from $YOU_HOST" take_control continue else if [ $HBEAT_FLG != 0 ] then HBEAT_FLG=0 echo "$(date) Heartbeat with $YOU_HOST restored" fi fi don

RE: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address

2006-03-13 Thread Greg Scott
ssage- From: Chuck Ebbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:11 AM To: Greg Scott Cc: linux-kernel; David S. Miller Subject: Re: Router stops routing after changing MAC Address In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:33:15 -0600, Greg Scott wrote: