Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread maqiufang (A)
Hi, Med, Kent, all 2) In the Security Considerations section, the template should be amended to have the following paragraph: Please be aware that this YANG module uses groupings from other YANG modules that define nodes that may be considered sensitive or

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:30 PM Qin Wu wrote: > + In section 4.2 about choice of prefixes, it is said that "Prefix values > SHOULD be short but are also likely to be unique." I used to say the same > thing. In recent years, however, I have started to stress the importance of > uniqueness much

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Qin Wu
+ In section 4.2 about choice of prefixes, it is said that "Prefix values SHOULD be short but are also likely to be unique." I used to say the same thing. In recent years, however, I have started to stress the importance of uniqueness much more. I'd say something like "Prefix values SHOULD be

Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-09

2024-02-28 Thread Qin Wu
Support as coauthor. -Qin 发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Kent Watsen 发送时间: 2024年2月23日 1:42 收件人: netmod@ietf.org 主题: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-09 NETMOD WG, This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for: YANG Metadata Annotation for

Re: [netmod] Long trees RE: Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Qin Wu
+1, a few thoughts to share. I know this is tricky question related to tooling or artifact generation and representation. I am wondering whether we can make YANG tree diagram in a "collapsed" state where all the Leaf nodes and only leaf nodes are hidden from view until its parent node is

Re: [netmod] Long trees RE: Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
I would agree with Andy that it is not clear how long is “too long”. BGP YANG model, which is perhaps one of the biggest models at 150 pages long, has multiple tree diagrams none of which are more than one page long. If the complete tree diagram is too long, could it moved to the Appendix,

Re: [netmod] Long trees RE: Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:31 AM wrote: > Hi Jan, > > > > Thanks for the comments. > > > > Here is a first attempt to address the long trees point while taking into > account expanded/unexpanded uses: > > > > NEW: > >YANG tree diagrams provide a concise representation of a YANG module > >

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Kent, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Kent Watsen Envoyé : mercredi 28 février 2024 16:35 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc : netmod@ietf.org; netmod-cha...@ietf.org Objet : Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis Hi Med, I’ve been slow to provide follow-up

[netmod] Long trees RE: Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Jan, Thanks for the comments. Here is a first attempt to address the long trees point while taking into account expanded/unexpanded uses: NEW: YANG tree diagrams provide a concise representation of a YANG module and SHOULD be included to help readers understand YANG module

Re: [netmod] Deviating in circles

2024-02-28 Thread Jason Sterne (Nokia)
I would support the idea of dropping the “no circular imports” rule. It can lead to gymnastics in sets of modules that are probably unnecessary (i.e. having to rearrange definitions, re-layer things, etc simply to avoid violating that rule). It isn’t that hard for compilers/tools to detect that

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Jan, > On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:21 AM, Jan Lindblad wrote: > > Med, author team, > > Thank you for taking the time to get this work done, and well done! This is > one of those fundamental bricks that saves time and improves quality for the > entire YANG community. > > I read the -09 version

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Med, I’ve been slow to provide follow-up responses to you regarding the "Adherence to the NMDA" and "Security Considerations" sections, which I have refined even more since our last interactions here. 1) In the Adherence to the NMDA section, I know that I pushed before to invert the

Re: [netmod] Deviating in circles

2024-02-28 Thread Reshad Rahman
Hi Jan, Does the same question arise with augments? Inline. On Tuesday, February 27, 2024, 03:39:37 AM EST, Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) wrote: Dear NETMODers, I'm on site at the annual EANTC interop-event in Berlin, and came across an interesting case relating to import and deviations

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread Jan Lindblad
Med, author team, Thank you for taking the time to get this work done, and well done! This is one of those fundamental bricks that saves time and improves quality for the entire YANG community. I read the -09 version and like what I see. I have a couple of minor suggestions you might

[netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-02-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, I think that this version is ready for the WGLC. The document fully covers the items promised when requesting adoption [1]. As listed in the ACK section, we also solicited and integrated feedback from many yangdoctors, solicited SAAG WG to review the security text, etc. Refer to 1.1

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-09.txt

2024-02-28 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-09.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF. Title: Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents Containing YANG Data Models Authors: Andy Bierman Mohamed Boucadair Qin