Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-06-02 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
gt;> À : 'Jürgen Schönwälder' ; >> 'Rob Wilton (rwilton)' ; >> 'netmod@ietf.org' >> Cc : 'Kathleen Moriarty' ; >> 'Stephan Wenger' ; 'trust...@ietf.org' >> ; 'Deen, Glenn' ; 'The >> IESG' >> Objet : RE: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs >&

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-06-02 Thread mohamed.boucadair
; > 'Rob Wilton (rwilton)' ; > 'netmod@ietf.org' > Cc : 'Kathleen Moriarty' ; > 'Stephan Wenger' ; 'trust...@ietf.org' > ; 'Deen, Glenn' ; 'The > IESG' > Objet : RE: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs > errata > > Hi Jürgen, all, > > I st

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-11 Thread mohamed.boucadair
avril 2023 19:36 > > To: BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > > > Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; > > Kathleen Moriarty ; Stephan > Wenger > > ; trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Deen, > Glenn > > ; The IESG > > Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsec

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-06 Thread Stephan Wenger
Schönwälder , Rob Wilton (rwilton) , Kathleen Moriarty , Stephan Wenger , trust...@ietf.org , netmod@ietf.org , Deen, Glenn , The IESG Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 4:09 AM tom petch mailto:ie...@btconnect.com>> wrote

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-06 Thread Andy Bierman
> > > > From: netmod On Behalf Of Rob Wilton (rwilton) > > Sent: mercredi 5 avril 2023 14:17 > > To: Kathleen Moriarty ; Stephan > Wenger > > Cc: trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Jürgen Schönwälder > ; Deen, Glenn < > glenn_d...@comcast.com>; The IESG > >

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-06 Thread tom petch
r-netmod-iana-registries/. > > Cheers, > Med > > From: netmod On Behalf Of Rob Wilton (rwilton) > Sent: mercredi 5 avril 2023 14:17 > To: Kathleen Moriarty ; Stephan Wenger > > Cc: trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Jürgen Schönwälder > ; Deen, Glenn > ; The IES

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
; Deen, Glenn ; The IESG > Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext > vs errata > > I am a pessimist when it comes to IETF time plans and the ability > to limit discussions to certain issues once a document goes > through a working group process. I also

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
> Cc: trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Jürgen Schönwälder > ; Deen, Glenn > ; The IESG > Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata > > Hi Kathleen, > > The short answer to your question is maybe. The longer answer is my email > repl

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
sed errata so that it can reviewed/discussed. Regards, Rob From: Kathleen Moriarty Sent: 04 April 2023 19:14 To: Stephan Wenger Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; Jürgen Schönwälder ; Joel Halpern ; Deen, Glenn ; trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; The IESG Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] dra

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread mohamed.boucadair
: mercredi 5 avril 2023 14:17 To: Kathleen Moriarty ; Stephan Wenger Cc: trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Jürgen Schönwälder ; Deen, Glenn ; The IESG Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata Hi Kathleen, The short answer to your question is maybe. The longer

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread Paul Wouters
> On Apr 5, 2023, at 08:17, Rob Wilton (rwilton) > wrote: > >  > Hi Kathleen, > > The short answer to your question is maybe. I do hope we will do something as I agree with your problem statement and would like to see a fix. Perhaps a topic for the retreat. > The longer answer is my

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-05 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
: Kathleen Moriarty Sent: 04 April 2023 19:14 To: Stephan Wenger Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; Jürgen Schönwälder ; Joel Halpern ; Deen, Glenn ; trust...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; The IESG Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata Rob, Multiple instances could

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-04 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
lenn > , trust...@ietf.org , > netmod@ietf.org , The IESG > Subject: RE: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata > > Hi Stephan, Joel, > > I'm basically coming at this from a similar position as Jürgen. > > I regard RFC 8407 as providing general guida

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-04 Thread Stephan Wenger
...@ietf.org , netmod@ietf.org , The IESG Subject: RE: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata Hi Stephan, Joel, I'm basically coming at this from a similar position as Jürgen. I regard RFC 8407 as providing general guidance to authors of YANG modules both within

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-04 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
age- > From: Jürgen Schönwälder > Sent: 04 April 2023 16:43 > To: Stephan Wenger > Cc: Joel Halpern ; Rob Wilton (rwilton) > ; Kathleen Moriarty ; > Deen, Glenn ; trust...@ietf.org; > netmod@ietf.org; The IESG > Subject: Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecurit

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-04 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
We can consider this an editing error since we forgot to put markers around the boilerplate. Nobody likely understood that these markers, which were originally introduced for code components and to support tools, have second legal meaning. This is for me the more subtle news that likely more

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-04 Thread Stephan Wenger
Hi, Whether to use an erratum as a mechanism to address our little problem is not the Trust’s business, and I think the Trust doesn’t and shouldn’t care—after all, an accepted erratum is an integral part of the (modified) RFC. However, as an IETF participant I have to ask: Is using errata to

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-03 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Thank you, Joel! Haha Sent from my mobile device > On Apr 3, 2023, at 5:03 PM, Joel Halpern wrote: > > s/with the need/without the need/ (don't you love typos that reverse > meaning?) > > Yours, > > Joel > >> On 4/3/2023 4:14 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >> Hello Rob! >> >> Thank you

Re: [netmod] [Trustees] draft-moriarty-yangsecuritytext vs errata

2023-04-03 Thread Joel Halpern
s/with the need/without the need/  (don't you love typos that reverse meaning?) Yours, Joel On 4/3/2023 4:14 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: Hello Rob! Thank you for your offer of AD sponsorship. We also reviewed the idea of using errata and I think this was viewed as cleaner in that it would