Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1 terminology

2017-09-20 Thread t.petch
September 13, 2017 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1 Hi, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > > The LNI/NI authors/RTG Area DT met yesterday and discussed the proposed > change as well as the other topics that came up in the subsequent > discussion. The high order bit

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-09-13 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > > The LNI/NI authors/RTG Area DT met yesterday and discussed the proposed > change as well as the other topics that came up in the subsequent > discussion.  The high order bit is that the proposed and current > definitions are adequate for our needs.  Read further i

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-09-12 Thread Lou Berger
Hi, The LNI/NI authors/RTG Area DT met yesterday and discussed the proposed change as well as the other topics that came up in the subsequent discussion.  The high order bit is that the proposed and current definitions are adequate for our needs.  Read further if you care about details, including

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-31 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Lou Berger writes: > On August 29, 2017 9:03:22 AM Per Hedeland wrote: > >> On 2017-08-29 14:34, Lou Berger wrote: >>> On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > > On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Lou Berger píae v Po 2

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-30 Thread Xufeng Liu
> -Original Message- > From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:35 AM > To: Martin Bjorklund > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1 > > On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-30 Thread Lou Berger
FYI I've asked folks in the routing area, i.e., the ietf users of schema mount, if they have an opinion on the node discussion. I will also do so on the point I raised on parent reference location. (Which is independent from your format change.) Clearly, if I'm the only one to be raising objecti

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-30 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Lou Berger writes: > > > Lada, > > > > > > On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: [...] > >>> PS is your view aligned with martin or our example? > >> If you mean shifting the XPath context node to the mount

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2017-08-29 15:40, Lou Berger wrote: > > > On August 29, 2017 9:03:22 AM Per Hedeland wrote: > >> On 2017-08-29 14:34, Lou Berger wrote: >>> On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > > On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Lou Berger writes: > Lada, > > > On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: >>> Lada, >>> >>> On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Can you please take a look at it and see if we have any other disconnects? This is really sc

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Lou Berger
On August 29, 2017 9:03:22 AM Per Hedeland wrote: On 2017-08-29 14:34, Lou Berger wrote: On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: Lada, On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Lou Berger píae v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: Lada, On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM,

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2017-08-29 14:34, Lou Berger wrote: > On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> Lou Berger wrote: >>> Lada, >>> >>> >>> On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Lou Berger píae v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: > Lada, > > On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrot

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Lou Berger
For me usage standpoint it really would be much simpler in the model definition and use for the mount point to behave like a container. What are your technical objections to this change? Note that the encoding from a protocol standpoint would be the same as a container. Thanks Lou On August

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Lou Berger wrote: > >> Lada, > >> > >> > >> On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >>> Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: > Lada, > > On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >>

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Lou Berger
On 08/29/2017 03:37 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wrote: >> Lada, >> >> >> On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: Lada, On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Can you please take a look at it and see

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > Lada, > > > On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: > >> Lada, > >> > >> On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Can you please take a look at it and see if we have any other > disconnects? > >>> Thi

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Lou Berger
Lada, On 8/28/2017 10:16 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: >> Lada, >> >> On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Can you please take a look at it and see if we have any other disconnects? >>> This is really scary. >> I agree! >> >>> How can

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 09:40 -0400: > Lada, > > On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Can you please take a look at it and see if we have any other disconnects? > > > > This is really scary. > > I agree! > > > How can we expect poor data modellers to understand the >

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Lou Berger
Lada, On 8/28/2017 9:30 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Can you please take a look at it and see if we have any other disconnects? > This is really scary. I agree! > How can we expect poor data modellers to understand the > concept if we have such fundamental disconnects, after so many hours of >

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Lou Berger píše v Po 28. 08. 2017 v 08:54 -0400: > > On 8/28/2017 7:35 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Lou Berger wrote: > > > Martin, > > > See below. > > > > > > On 08/28/2017 06:28 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Lou Berger wrote: > > > > > Martin, > > > > > See below > > > > > > > >

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Lou Berger
On 8/28/2017 7:35 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wrote: >> Martin, >> See below. >> >> On 08/28/2017 06:28 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >>> Lou Berger wrote: Martin, See below On August 23, 2017 2:28:37 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wr

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > Martin, > See below. > > On 08/28/2017 06:28 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Lou Berger wrote: > >> Martin, > >> See below > >> > >> > >> On August 23, 2017 2:28:37 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > >> > >>> Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Martin, > > See below. > >>

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Lou Berger
Martin, See below. On 08/28/2017 06:28 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wrote: >> Martin, >> See below >> >> >> On August 23, 2017 2:28:37 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> >>> Lou Berger wrote: Hi Martin, See below. On 8/22/2017 6:20 AM, Martin Bjorklu

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-28 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > Martin, > See below > > > On August 23, 2017 2:28:37 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Lou Berger wrote: > >> Hi Martin, > >> > >> See below. > >> > >> > >> On 8/22/2017 6:20 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Lada presented an open issue in schema mount i

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-23 Thread Lou Berger
Martin, See below On August 23, 2017 2:28:37 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> See below. >> >> >> On 8/22/2017 6:20 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 >> > in >> > >> https://da

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-22 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Martin, > > See below. > > > On 8/22/2017 6:20 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 > > in > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-netmod-sessb-schema-mount) > > > > The o

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-22 Thread Lou Berger
Hi Martin, See below. On 8/22/2017 6:20 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 > in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-netmod-sessb-schema-mount) > > The original problem comes from the NI use case >

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-22 Thread Martin Bjorklund
"Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: > Hi Martin, > > > On 8/22/17, 6:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" > wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 > >in > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-netmod-sessb-s > >chem

Re: [netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Martin, On 8/22/17, 6:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" wrote: >Hi, > >Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 >in >https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-netmod-sessb-s >chema-mount) > >The original problem comes from the NI us

[netmod] schema mount open issue #1

2017-08-22 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Lada presented an open issue in schema mount in Prague. (See slide 6 in https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-netmod-sessb-schema-mount) The original problem comes from the NI use case (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model). In this use case, interface