Coalition of Canadian Art Professionals Releases Open Letter on Copyright

2006-06-08 Thread Felix Stalder
[The voices of artists against the expansion of copyrights are getting stronger. Stuff like that will make it harder for the industry to claim to represent the interests of creators. Very good. Felix] Media Release: Coalition of Canadian Art Professionals Releases Open Letter on Copyright Tuesd

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Andrew Bucksbarg
I find this all very interesting and I would like to point out that the term "list lurker" does nothing to encourage participation, but creates a quality of power. Is the "list lurker" part of a necessary culture, giving authority to those who post regularly ("list dominators?")? I also wonder if a

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
friends, so long as we can limit this debate to a few days, i think it is a welcome occasion to think about one of the wonders of the online world - after all, Nettime is still one of the most interesting and most active (and kicking) mailing lists with a relatively consistent topical field, after

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Geert Lovink
Hi all, just a few comments. I enjoyed the Montreal nettime online and the tech worked out fine. It is really a shame that the announcement of this (online) event came through only hours after the event ended. The reason for this is simple. Ted and Felix should be thanked for their massive wo

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Newmedia
Folks: Time(s) moves along -- especially nettime(s). Forgive me if this has already been stated but there were a number of specific "conditions" that made nettime possible -- the inflating of the Internet Bubble in the late 90's, the disruption in many people's lives as funding for artistic/a

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Benjamin Geer
One of the things I like best about nettime is the high signal-to-noise ratio, and I think it's got better over the last few years. It seems to me that a lot of thought generally goes into the postings that appear here, thanks both to the authors and the moderators. So if a day goes by without an

Happy Lurker counts her blessings

2006-06-08 Thread Caroline Nevejan
Dear Nettime, Over the last 10 years, since the beginning, I have been a happy lurker of nettime list. I enjoyed the writing of so many contributors and appreciated the work of the moderators. It has given me an opportunity to follow certain developments without having to indulge in them.

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread robb
hi all, and thanks for (finally) some serious discussion about the list and the --more or less complicated--dynamics existing within it. I will be very short as I'm posting from a very unconfortable location in overpacked Amsterdam (by the way, if someone from there wants to meet that would be sup

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Felix Stalder
> Time(s) moves along -- especially nettime(s). So what about these > time(s)? The rebels of the net.culture of the 1990s have encountered a cruel fate: they won. Alas, not on their terms. Many of the themes that have been explored by the old-timers are now mainstream. *free exchange of cultu

Re: Re: hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Spornitz
Hello from Winnipeg... You know, I thought of unsubscribing to nettime; only to come up against the cold hard truth that this would mean the net/web we all got so excited about had finally been completely co-opted by "those in control" so now I post kinda like I call the "phone-in shows" - cra

RE: cybernetics and the Internet, Was: NNA...

2006-06-08 Thread Ronda Hauben
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, werboon wrote: > we fear the -isms they may produce. This is life in open social order, in > cybernetic ecumenical society. I agree that there is a legacy to the development of the Internet in the cybernetic developments like the Macy Foundation conferences, but the Macy discu

nettime as idea

2006-06-08 Thread brian carroll
* is it possible that 'ideas' that are now institutionalized are part of the problem, in that they do not lend them- selves to building up shared views, and instead dividing ideas into categories, which narrows down potentials for building greater knowledge/understanding thru dis

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Gita Hashemi
At 11:31 PM -0400 6/7/06, t byfield wrote: >Let's say for the sake of argument that nettime is actually run by >Satan himself. okay, just for the sake of argument: i read your use of religious imagery as insinuating dogmatism on the part of the "other". i'll be happy to be corrected. >Do his mot

Re: hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion

2006-06-08 Thread Morlock Elloi
That's what nettime is, a selective taz-scented flypaper with imperfect glue, now and then one of these things get caught, you watch them buzz about, and then they fly away. Weirder ones get hooked to it and come back. But it's the best show in the flytrap town, as the alternative is watching heap

RE: cybernetics and the Internet, Was: NNA...

2006-06-08 Thread kenneth c. werbin
I was not intending to suggest that the attendees of the Macy conferences were military mathematicians (although some like Wiener clearly were), rather that the Macy conferences saw social scientists, like Mead, consider questions of cybernetics and feedback in their fields, as well as in greater s

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Newmedia
Felix: > The rebels of the net.culture of the 1990s have encountered a > cruel fate: they won. Alas, not on their terms. Then they didn't "win" -- they "lost." If you insist on calling them "rebels." > Many of the themes that have been explored by the old-timers > are now mainstream. Whi

ECONOMIES OF AFFECTIVITY

2006-06-08 Thread Juan Martin Prada
Dear nettimers: Let me share with you all the text that I have written entitled "ECONOMIES OF AFFECTIVITY", for a web art show on the topic "Policies of affectivity, Aesthetics of biopower" This text is also available in Spanish at http://www.vinculo-a.net/texto_martinprada.html saludos! Juan Mar

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread David Garcia
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Geert Lovink wrote: > > >Ted and Felix should be thanked for their >massive work, move on and rotate, leaving others (a bigger group, I >would suggest) to moderate the central nettime-l list. For the sake of clarity Geert are you putting yourself forward for all the h

RE: nettime as idea

2006-06-08 Thread Nicholas Ruiz
Awesome--a nice start would be to de-moderate the list; that is, remove the intelligentsia filters, moderation and so on, no? NRIII Nicholas Ruiz III ABD/GTA Interdisciplinary Program in the Humanities --Florida State University-- Editor, Kritikos http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~nr03/ -Origi

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-08 Thread Eduardo Navas
Hello everyone, I've been on nettime since at least 2000, if not 1999, my memory escapes me now. Regardless, I experienced the first and second parts that Brian Holmes refers to. One thing that I have noticed about not just nettime but, in more general terms, other online collaborations and o

Re: life and lurking in Berlin

2006-06-08 Thread Kali Tal
As an intermittent poster who has fallen into quiet lurkerdom over the last several years, I have to say that nettime is still one of my favorite reads. I delete most mail from other lists unread, but I at least skim almost everything that goes by here. I am on the other side of a 20-year a

dictionary of war: video

2006-06-08 Thread florian schneider
dear nettimers! last weekend the first edition of the DICTIONARY OF WAR took place in Staedelschule in Frankfurt/Main. 25 concepts on the issue of war have been created and presented by artists, architects, theorists, filmmakers and activists. since last monday night

Re: report_on_NNA ---> NE ?

2006-06-08 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
dear nettimers, Interesting that when the list turns on itself (attention-wise) it suddenly comes alive! Makes me think that maybe it would be a good idea to organise also a Nettime Europe meeting - would be fun. Of course Felix would be invited (he's based in Europe already for some time)