Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-09 Thread t byfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu 06/08/06 at 01:38 PM -0700): > But what really bothers me is this, that the current discussion on the > nettime list is really about nettime and nettime and nettime... Exactly. ...and... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu 06/08/06 at 01:29 PM -0400): > the effects were fairly obvio

Re: cybernetics and the Internet, Was: NNA...

2006-06-09 Thread Newmedia
Ronda: > but the Macy discussions weren't military or a mathematical philosophy. We've talked about this before . . . that is simply wrong. Of course they were "military" -- or more specifically a result of the intersection of "intelligence" interests in the application of social science and

Re: nettime as idea

2006-06-09 Thread Newmedia
Roberta: When nettime was young, it largely revolved around events. Not ideas. Events. The list was often a discussion of events, publishing of "papers" that were given at events, reports about events, quarrels that took place at events, planning for events. Events were at the center of net

Re: ECONOMIES OF AFFECTIVITY

2006-06-09 Thread Benjamin Geer
Juan Martin Prada's essay reminded me of this talk that Shierry Weber Nicholsen gave a few years ago and that, to my knowledge, hasn't been published anywhere. She takes as her starting point Stjepan Mestrovic's notion of "postemotional society": "While emotions would seem to be the inviolable he

UN on Toxic Waste Export

2006-06-09 Thread Soenke Zehle
A note on World Environment Day (June 5) from the UN. Ibeanu's mandate=20 is defined as follows: "The Special Rapporteur on the adverse effects of=20 the illicit movement and dumping of toxic and dangerous products and=20 wastes on the enjoyment of human rights is mandated by the Commission on=20 H

Re: nettime as idea

2006-06-09 Thread roberta buiani
On 9-Jun-06, at 10:38 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: > > I agree, on many levels, nettime works quite well, so there is not an > urgent need to change something. But, this does not mean it cannot be > improved. Sure it can. But to do that, we need concrete ideas, what > would you, personally, individuall

What you myspace will be held against you

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Byrne
Ever wonder who is reading your MySpace profile? Apparently the Pentagon, amongst others. It's nice to know Edinburgh is hosting discussions for the benefit of the electronic surveillance community... >From Stunned weblog: "What you myspace will be held against you The New Scientist reveals

RE: nettime as idea

2006-06-09 Thread Felix Stalder
Hi everyone, sorry for my previous post, it went out without being finished. What I wanted to say was that many of the themes that critical net.culture talked about 10 years ago are now mainstream. They are now playing themselves out on a scale far beyond 'net.culture', indeed, they have

Re: report_on_NNA

2006-06-09 Thread Geert Lovink
> For the sake of clarity Geert are you putting yourself forward for > all the hard work involved in being part of the next stage in the > 'rotation'. you are proposing or is this a prompting that others > rather than yourself should put themselves forward to take up this > burden ? No, not at all