Hi Brian-
Thanks so much for your depthful thoughts, compliments and for the link to
your work. I look forward to reading it.
These ideas come from my dissertation work entitled 'The List Serves: Bare
Life in Open Social Order' which I am getting closer and closer to
completing at Concordia
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Ronda Hauben wrote:
The point there was to encourage cross disciplinary discussion and
to break through the communication boundaries of the various disciplines.
But the Macy Conferences were actually about feedback systems, not
about mathematical philosophy to open social
I was not intending to suggest that the attendees of the Macy
conferences were military mathematicians (although some like Wiener
clearly were), rather that the Macy conferences saw social scientists,
like Mead, consider questions of cybernetics and feedback in their
fields, as well as in greater
There was a passionate point raised near the end of NNA, that just when
people begin to critically say something on/about nettime, discussion
quickly gets shut down, generally through the invocation of 'highbrow
theory' and/or 'academic references'. And while this is true to a certain
extent,