sondheimogram [x8]

2012-01-09 Thread Alan Sondheim
[digested @ nettime == mod (tb)] Alan Sondheim PAIN.TXT: On (severe) Pain War Against War, Krieg dem Kriege in silence here the idiotic poverty of pain For Occupy Wall Street, Jesus' Third Way * Eyebeam Window Gallery Installation Pompeii (t

sondheimogram [x8]

2012-01-09 Thread Alan Sondheim
[digested @ nettime == mod (tb)] Alan Sondheim PAIN.TXT: On (severe) Pain War Against War, Krieg dem Kriege in silence here the idiotic poverty of pain For Occupy Wall Street, Jesus' Third Way * Eyebeam Window Gallery Installation Pompeii (t

sondheimogram [x13]

2012-01-09 Thread Alan Sondheim
[digested @ nettime == mod (tb)] Alan Sondheim Uncomfortable notes on the poetics of captured human behavior: Part cauterization of the sublime Mis/take (self-interrogation) Propeller Here's the Thing, two texts Worry WORLD */CYCLE CONTROL C

Re: A Movement Without Demands?

2012-01-09 Thread John Young
Quite astute to high-five the other 1% which writes and reads high-level amusings. And why not divide and condescend the 99% into manageable 1% fragments so that penny-ante rewards can be parceled out, quietly, in the familiar language so deftly fitted to the levels of hierarchy, high to low, d

Re: A Movement Without Demands?

2012-01-09 Thread Dean, Jodi
Michael, You misrepresent what I said. I said: "the poorest places in the US don't have active occupations going on". I didn't say the movement isn't found in poor communities. Elsewhere in the same post I mentioned Oakland's ongoing occupation explicitly. I disagree with your point regardin

Re: A Movement Without Demands?

2012-01-09 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/01/12 08:12, Michael H Goldhaber wrote: > Second, I disagree about the need for demands The lack of demands is a feature, not a bug. It's a significant refusal to signify rather than an attempt to sulk capital into submission. It is upsetting the right people and making the right people u

Re: A Movement Without Demands?

2012-01-09 Thread Doug Henwood
On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Michael H Goldhaber wrote: > Snafu and Jodi Dean, why did you put your argument in favor of demands in > such academic and turgid prose that it is a foregone conclusion the most in > the occupy movement couldn't possibly understand it and would probably toss > it asi

Re: A Movement Without Demands?

2012-01-09 Thread Michael H Goldhaber
I have several comments on this discussion. First, a serious question. Snafu and Jodi Dean, why did you put your argument in favor of demands in such academic and turgid prose that it is a foregone conclusion the most in the occupy movement couldn't possibly understand it and would probably tos