Post-Postism,

2014-03-10 Thread temp
>I think I'll just say that I have become post-postist. I hear about post-digital/New Media/Internet/Human/etc that I believe that this only succeeds at placing us in a corner of opposition or refusal and makes no suggestions. For all my distrust of it, at least New Aestheticism posited something

Re: Hans Magnus Enzensberger: Rules for the digital world

2014-03-10 Thread Armin Medosch
The point I want to make is not so much about Enzensbergers text - the poet has clearly let himself down - but the publishing context. FAZ is on a campaign against Gratiskultur - the free culture of the internet. A few days earlier there was a text by Jaron Lanier which was pretty much a repetition

Re: Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread mp
On 10/03/14 11:57, kontakt |�florian kuhlmann wrote: > Am 10.03.2014 um 09:51 schrieb mp: > >> and this is not a joke either: communal/collective spaces for >> communication can be really good. A place to meet. A digital >> square. > > i have to admit i less and less believe in this. the only t

Re: Hans Magnus Enzensberger: Rules for the digital world

2014-03-10 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
Am 10.03.14 02:58, schrieb Nick: > Quoth Felix Stalder: > >> Enzensberger's text was just a joke, and the FAZ printed >> it because it would stir controversy, not because it had much to >> offer intellectually. > > Was it really just a joke? I'm not so sure dismissing it as that is > appropriate.

Re: Post-digital - Mindful Disconnection: Counterpowering the Panopticon from the Inside (with Howard Rheingold)

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Dear nettimers, While reading another excellent discussion on the post-digital / disconnectivity on nettime, I was reminded of a piece I co-authored with Howard Rheingold slightly over seven years ago for the theme issue Hybrid Space of Open, Journal for Art and the Public Domain. At the time I

Re: Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread kontakt | florian kuhlmann
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:51 schrieb mp: > and this is not a joke either: communal/collective spaces for > communication can be really good. A place to meet. A digital square. i have to admit i less and less believe in this. the only thing i am strongly recognizing is, that friends, people and socitey

Re: Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread mp
On 10/03/14 07:29, Sandra Braman wrote: > 2% of people -- across socio-economic class, meaning it isn't about > cost -- do not want a telephone in the home > > having lived that way for many years, i can report that the > pleasures of it are quite real as long as you have somewhere to go to s

Re: Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread Sandra Braman
2% of people -- across socio-economic class, meaning it isn't about cost -- do not want a telephone in the home having lived that way for many years, i can report that the pleasures of it are quite real sandra braman - Original Message - From: "Nick" To: nettim...@kein.org Sent: Sunday