Re: The Meme Wars

2017-01-16 Thread David Garcia
Thank you Chris for the link… > An explication of your statement would > prove productive: >> On a related note, I think that an important part of this discussion >> will be to challenge the shallow discourse of "fake news" and >> "post-truth” which only serves to set up a smoke screen coverin

Re: The Meme Wars

2017-01-16 Thread analoguehorizon
Hello, I never post here but hey, I've also been doing a lot of reading over the past month and wanted to share some of what I've learned. Basically I've been on the internet forever and somehow never ended up in the libertarian internet. I'm in Europe too and actual anarchism still has some grou

Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics Of Crisis After

2017-01-16 Thread Felix Stalder
Yesterday, I listened to Doug Henwood's radio show [1] which featured a long interview with feminist theorist Nancy Fraser. In it, she elaborated, among other things, her take on Polanyi's Great Transformation, which has been used, also on nettime, to frame the current crisis. I found her quite int

Re: Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics...

2017-01-16 Thread analoguehorizon
Thanks Felix this is quite useful A big issue is the polarising nature of politics being characterised as left or right. The right are attacking emancipatory forces in general. They make no distinction between - liberal currents that gravitated in the direction of marketization and socialist and

Re: Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics

2017-01-16 Thread Keith Hart
Nancy Fraser wrote (via Felix): >Why is there no double movement in the 21st century? The problem >here is clear: focusing on what is absent, we ignore that which >is present. Suppose, however, that we re-cast our inquiry in a >more openended way, by examining the grammar of really existing >socia

Re: The Meme Wars

2017-01-16 Thread Morlock Elloi
A possibility that nothing has changed in should be examined. There is a massive power shift, and various ecosystems associated with the outgoing narrative (most major media conglomerates, democrat apparatchiks, progressives, "scientists", showcase identity-based reps), sometimes nominally oppose

Re: Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics...

2017-01-16 Thread Brian Holmes
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM, wrote: > The right accuse progressives of being hypocritical for empty > moralising or 'virtue signalling' when it comes to the interests > of working people. The basis for this is that by an large the > establishment left, Labour and the Democrats went along with

Re: Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics

2017-01-16 Thread Felix Stalder
On 2017-01-16 18:17, Keith Hart wrote: > Nancy Fraser is right to be ambivalent about Polanyi's relevance for > the last half century or today, but like him she has a weak grasp > of world society's movement and direction; she also needs a more > precise formulation of the problem and its period

Re: The Meme Wars

2017-01-16 Thread C.Robbins
Hi David, Thx so much for this explication - It strikes me that "post-truth" may be an appropriation of some academic jargon that I've heard bantered around at conferences ... as a rhetorical signifier of the MSM's hip intellectual pose in their never-ending attempt to keep ahead. > I believe

Re: Nancy Fraser: A Triple Movement? Parsing The Politics...

2017-01-16 Thread Morlock Elloi
On the upside, this lowers the number of preppers, as in the case of Mad Max-class collapse, the unarmed liberals are going to be the reliable source of food and stuff! On 1/16/17, 11:55, Brian Holmes wrote: classes. Obama made the same claim, like a too-late Tony Blair. Now in the US the liber