Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
Urban populations ... no one will waste nukes on peasants. Peasants and the ruling class will survive. Do a search on "luxury shelters" or "doomsday bunkers" - from $1MM to $40MM a pop. It doesn't matter if they will work or not - what matters is that the buyers believe they will, and these

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Thomas Keenan
"A limited nuclear war" ... limited to whom? On Aug 13, 2017 5:21 PM, "Morlock Elloi" wrote: The most likely way is a limited nuclear war where most of nuclear weapons facilities are taken out and global population halved, but that's rather unappealing. # distributed

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
The imperial power transition was never smooth (so far), usually it takes few centuries of dark ages. Even if everything these days is accelerated 10X, we're still looking at several decades of deep s*it. The interesting speculation would be: what is the best way for the American Empire to

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread John Hopkins
On 10/Aug/17 06:32, heath bunting wrote: i support any nation state that attempts to dis-engage from use empire eg hungary, as the empire is the greatest law breaker and threat to global peace But, really, Heath, does the altogether expected and ongoing collapse of the Amurikan Empire signal

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread heath bunting
when falling, the safest place to be is on the ground as soon as possible a non resistant state of mind will limit the amount of broken bones, but there will be some injuries the eu is already broken in reality ie not a union anymore eg greece, so there is no chance to remain brexit was a