Re: Algorithmic Sovereignty

2018-03-22 Thread Burak Arikan
> The ability to understand what is inscribed in such algorithms, what are the consequences of their execution and what is the agency left for the living world is crucial. Congratulations Jaromil. Your point "what is the agency left for the living" will increasingly be more important. Looking forw

Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm

2018-03-22 Thread Patrice Riemens
unDear nettimers, And what about a life without 'social' media? - and hence without 'discussions' about 'social media'? Ciaoui, p+7D! ("Actionism - the infantile malady of activism") On 2018-03-21 19:47, Geert Lovink wrote: Dear nettimers, I know, this is (not) the time for us to speak up…

Fwd: Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm

2018-03-22 Thread Patrice Riemens
Group return didn't work and send my post into the nettime walhalla ... Original Message Subject: Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm Date: 2018-03-22 17:10 From: Patrice Riemens To: Geert Lovink Cc: a moderated mailing list for net criticism unDear nettimers,

Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm

2018-03-22 Thread Geert Lovink
> From: olia lialina > Subject: Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm > Date: 22 March 2018 5:18:07 pm GMT+1 > To: Geert Lovink > hi! > > i wanted to answer to the list, but as it seems i am blocked on nettime, so i > answer to you :) > Apropos "trillion years ago" and Unlike Us <--

Please show some conscience

2018-03-22 Thread Morlock Elloi
Twitter thread from GOOGL ML employee: François Chollet The world is being shaped in large part by two long-time trends: first, our lives are increasingly dematerialized, consisting of consuming and generating information online, both at work and at home. Second, AI is getting ever smarter.

Re: Please show some conscience

2018-03-22 Thread Morlock Elloi
Before the Internet, people used to read papers aligned with their ideology. Just by looking at the paper selection you could tell who you are dealing with. The more eclectic ones would read several papers, which was the whole point of the 'free press'. There is absolutely nothing preventing (

FYI -- Chinese sytems -- Qian Xuesen

2018-03-22 Thread John Hopkins
Some of you may be interested in this profile of Qian Xuesen and his influence/leadership in the Chinese military-industrial complex: a bit of Chinese systems thinking: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/03/revered-rocket-scientist-set-motion-china-s-mass-surveillance-its-citizens JH -- +

Re: In the eye of the Cambridge Analytica storm

2018-03-22 Thread sebastian
here in bombay, no-one cares about the cambridge analytica storm. there's wind from the east, an unprecedented heatwave, the aadhar cyclone, and a series of savage social media shitstorms that just doesn't want to end. south asia's largest garbage dump (deonar), however, is currently not on fire, a