Re: Managing complexity?

2019-04-01 Thread John Hopkins
Hi Felix -- The 'size' of the system is an externally applied abstraction in that, unless one is speaking theoretically, a 'system' is always a subset of wider system: a subset conveniently defined via limits (of interaction with that wider system) and so-called boundary conditions. If one

Re: Managing complexity?

2019-04-01 Thread Brian Holmes
This is a brilliant thread, with fundamental interventions from everyone who has posted. I'm also told the Technopolitics group is meeting in Vienna, which is something like serendipity. I'm gonna throw in my two bits here as well. Felix's idea of "managing complexity" suggests a way of coping

Re: Managing complexity?

2019-04-01 Thread Morlock Elloi
There are simpler ways of viewing this: 1. The 'complexity' is so complex that individual actors do not matter any more, and what is there is new emergent phenomenon so complex it's nearly impossible to understand; we need to spend our lives analyzing it while in semi-catatonic paralysis.

Re: Managing complexity?

2019-04-01 Thread Felix Stalder
On 30.03.19 21:19, Brian Holmes wrote: > However, the surging sense of intellectual mastery brought by the > phrase, "managing complexity," declines precipitously when you try to > define either "management" or "complexity." Complexity is relatively easy to define. As Jospeh Rabie already did,