Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Charlie Tokowitz
From outside Chicago - think it may be time to skip town very soon Charlie Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Kurtz, Steven wrote: > > Brian, I have long admired your optimism and fighting spirit, but I just > find it difficult to think that structural change is coming soon.

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Kurtz, Steven
Brian, I have long admired your optimism and fighting spirit, but I just find it difficult to think that structural change is coming soon. Regarding the George Floyd case, we haven't even been able to get the accessories to murder charged and the murderer is miles from conviction. Given the

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread sebastian
And I know this is kind of lame, but... what if the breaking we're seeing is > the first rearticulation of what is going to evolve into a broad, radical, > international movement, one whose scope, diversity and determination will > surpass even the revolts of the 1960s, committed to end the

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Max Herman
Hi all, Another day of vigorous, dignified protest but the looting and arson have abated greatly (knock on wood). There was a frightening incident with a semi-truck but there were only minor injuries and great heroism was shown by many. The son of someone I knew in grade school showed some

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread sebastian
> On May 31, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Felix Stalder wrote: > > what exactly is breaking? the short answer is, of course, the patience of people who keep getting murdered. but this is not new. see london 2011, athens 2008, paris 2005. WHITE SILENCE = CONSENT, but also WHITE AGITATION =

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
Folks, thank you for these insightful reflections on the situation in the US; I would like to come back to a point that Felix made in his initial question: I, like probably most nettimers, I have been observing the fracturing of the US with increasing horror (knowing that Europe, over the last

Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Max Herman
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Re: what exactly is breaking?

2020-06-01 Thread Brian Holmes
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:26 PM Kurtz, Steven wrote: > Is anything breaking? No, nothing is breaking. The structure is > safe in spite of this uprising being more multi-racial and class > diverse than any I have ever seen. The two systems of law will stay > in place. The law will be biased in