War!
On 13/02/2023 17:39, Felix Stalder wrote:
On 13.02.23 08:45, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
- the defeat of NATO could lead to a "decolonization" of Western
Europe (not that this by itself leads to positive results. Repressive
"liberal" fascism remains as likely an outcome as some sort of
i
Dear Nettimers and Hans-Christian,
D’Eramo’s NLR sidecar article indeed contained a reference to Daniele Ganser,
but it was a little bit more than a reference (I copy the whole passage into
the email further down below). As you can see from the passage, D’Eramo does
not just cite Ganser, but re
if you wanted to have a good example of what I referred to as
"liberal fascism", it's here:
self empoewered thought police feeling entiled to go for a witch-hunt to
cancel voices off the mainstream.
Even as I do not agree with some stuff the Ganser says, I would always
defend his right to spea
Thank you Michael for the useful warning about Ganser. Nevertheless I am left
from your intervention with two curiosities.
First - and let me preface the I am in totally favour of vaccination and with
any no vax sympathy - how the (absurd and offensive) suggestion that the
unvaccinated are l
Dear Lorenzo,
Regarding the jews: OK, let us not call it anti-semitic as a statement, but
anti-semitic in its context (in the sense that many people, including Ganser
who make this statement prove to be anti-semites in other ways as well. Plus
obviously Ganser is one of the super slick people w
I invite Stefan to explain what he suggests we should do instead.
nothing.
Let people make their own judgement and cite whomever they want to cite.
Best
Stefan
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:21:54PM +0100, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
I invite Stefan to explain what he suggests we should do instead.
nothing.
Let people make their own judgement and cite whomever they want to cite.
And by all means complain when someone provides additional context.
--
José
If he only would “complain”: “liberal fascism” and "totalitarianism” is now the
minimum charge.
Just in case you want more context, Ganser now (as in: last week) likens
himself to Sophie Scholl, another person he thinks, who, like him, needed
courage to say the truth and to fight against war.
so you call it
"giving context" (which would be ok)
when in fact you try to silence an inconvenient voice
(make links disappear, erase references, suppress ...)
that's a euphemism I've never came across so far.
Admitting Ganser can be edgy. you want want to cancel everyone "edgy"?
where do you
On 14 Feb 2023, at 4:48, Michael Guggenheim wrote:
> I sent an email to NLR alerting them to this quote. Maybe I was not the only
> one. I was hoping, and suggesting, they would add a comment to D’Eramo’s
> text, explaining who Ganser is, and maybe asking D’Eramo to explain to the
> reader why
D’Eramo, quoted by Michael Guggenheim :I find these now-common disclaimers fascinating:And Russia’s unjustifiable invasion of Ukraine doesn’t absolve NATO of its responsibility in producing the conflict.This shows that what Putin has been doing is so terrible that even his defenders* feel obligated
Funny, that mail sounds in tone and attitude to me like something I've
encountered last time in the Berlin Stasi-archive.
The censor has spoken ...
s
Am 14.02.23 um 17:07 schrieb Ted Byfield:
On 14 Feb 2023, at 4:48, Michael Guggenheim wrote:
I sent an email to NLR alerting them to this quo
Don't feed the NATO trolls. They just want to nibble at your pinkie.
On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 17:53 +0100, Stefan Heidenreich wrote:
> Funny, that mail sounds in tone and attitude to me like something
> I've
> encountered last time in the Berlin Stasi-archive.
> The censor has spoken ...
>
> s
>
I'm really sorry, Felix, but I have to disagree here. In a sense this
war is not even a proxy war, but a testcase-scenario for an even bigger
war with China about Taiwan. It is a bloody shame that loads and loads
of people have to be killed (on both sides) and have to be mutilated,
tortured and
here are two texts i found recently quite useful, for the missing footnotes.
maurizio lazzarato known to many from his thesis on "immaterial
labour", has written about the financial war machine, debt, violence
and the urgency of revolution and published this text last june,
translated by a taiwane
Hello,
Trying to get back to some of Brian's and others original concerns here
is some useful background material; not from conspiracy theorists as far
as I know. Thanks Alex for the information about the Milan event. And,
Michael nice of you to bring a red herring to the discussion.
https:/
> Am 14.02.2023 um 22:38 schrieb Allan Siegel :
> not from conspiracy theorists as far as I know.
>
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Good to see Nettime ricocheting into life again, despite occasional
acrimony. But it was always so. Personally in the current Age of Manifest
Disinformation I can't see how calling attention to the questionable
credentials of a centrally quoted (& evidently quack) expelled former
academic equates t
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