Re: Almost zero

2022-03-02 Thread Keith Sanborn
More to your point: Avoiding world war 3, or the threat of it, is taken from the same playbook Putin used in priming the West for his invasion. The West and Ukraine supposedly thought: don’t do anything to antagonize Putin, he’ll use it as a pretext for invasion. The invasion was already

Re: Almost zero

2022-03-02 Thread Keith Sanborn
And body bags are body bags. The Nationalism card depends on Putin’s ability to invoke “The Great Patriotic War,” known in the West as WWII. This is the reason Putin invoked “denatzification.” But turning an aggression on foreign soil into defending the Father/motherland is a stretch even with

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread Ted Byfield
better and worse. So far the > fascist / authoritarian resurgence has been the big beneficiary. > > I forgot about the Adam Curtis film that refers to Surkov, because Curtis > lost me at that point. There is a point at which one can no longer just > wildly critique (although probably the locati

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread Brian Holmes
at refers to Surkov, because Curtis lost me at that point. There is a point at which one can no longer just wildly critique (although probably the location of that point varies, depending on who you are). I borrowed the title Almost Zero for the post because of the abysmal state, not only of US society

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread May Jayyusi
th subject or body 'help' to >nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." > >

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread mp
On 26/02/2022 06:24, Brian Holmes wrote: Does anyone remember Vladislav Surkov, "managed democracy," "non-linear war"? Yes. This was also included in a "documentary" by Adam Curtis called 'HyperNormalisation' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation "“HyperNormalisation” is

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread Brian Holmes
In 2014 Pomerantsev already wrote this: "As the Kremlin faces down the West, it is indeed gambling that old alliances like the EU and NATO mean less in the 21st century than the new commercial ties it has established with nominally “Western” companies, such as BP, Exxon, Mercedes, and BASF.

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-26 Thread Keith Sanborn
An interesting perspective but as a strategy against disinformation it failed and it will have failed: everyone already knows Putin uses this model of hybrid warfare. The obsession with “information “ is precisely what allowed this to happen. If you know the tanks are moving in and you tell

Re: Almost zero

2022-02-25 Thread Keith Sanborn
Making their intelligence public did nothing except possibly tip Putin off to its sources. It was, in the technical register, actionable. And yet there was no action: don’t provoke him by bringing in troops. Bringing in troops might have been the very thing to deter him from acting though he

Almost zero

2022-02-25 Thread Brian Holmes
Does anyone remember Vladislav Surkov, "managed democracy," "non-linear war"? Sure, you must, he emerged into view in the West with the Ukraine war of 2014, with the disinformation and the little green men. He was an aesthete and "political technologist," a PR guy and a reality TV fan, able in