Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Well, OK, I guess this thread won't go away: On Jan 31, 2017, at 14:18 , Alexander Bard wrote: > But is there somehow a widespread agreement that economic growth in > China and India over the last 30 years has not benefitted the masses at > all? That this is merely a

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

On Jan 31, 2017, at 14:18 , Alexander Bard wrote: > But is there somehow a widespread agreement that economic growth in > China and India over the last 30 years has not benefitted the masses at > all? That this is merely a "neo-liberal myth"? "Polls show that about 9 out of 10 Americans b

Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Excellent points, dear Brian, and much agreed too. But is there somehow a widespread agreement that economic growth in China and India over the last 30 years has not benefitted the masses at all? That this is merely a "neo-liberal myth"? Sure we have seen enough Indian and Chinese bi

Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Dear Carlo & Co I love how Nettime easily explodes into a debate forum for hundreds of issues simultaneously. The brainpower here is magnificent. However there are just too many different threads here all at once for me to be able to respond to decently. Glad we agree though that crypto currenci

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 14:29 , Morlock Elloi > wrote: > The 'left' discourse has been divorced from the reality for almost a decade, > since the mixed race president got into the office. This cognitive dissonance > was required to imagine the progress. “I’m right

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

It's important for the political imagination to have these discussions about history. > As for the examples from a British professor in Paris you mention > they are all taken from a colonial past where the destructive > colonialist effects of the measures involved were not taken into > pi

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 01:01:09PM +0100, Alexander Bard wrote: > Thank you for an excellent expose of your position on world politics and > your defense of the term "neoliberalism". I was just exercising empathy towards people that use it more than me. ;) > To begin with, hardly any mainstream

Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Thanks a million for your lengthy and thoughtful response, dear Dan! Exactly what I was looking for. Cheers to lucky Madison for having you around. Well, I have been here at Nettime long enough to see people blame "neoliberalism" for the crisis in Greece when in reality those neo-

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Alexander, a late reply to your original post and later: >>Can we please raise the quality of postings on this forum to at least >>slightly above the junior high school level? >>Best intentions from Cape Town I accept your best intentions. A provocation in a spirit of impatience and with a sense

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Am 28/01/17 um 08:40 schrieb Alexander Bard: >Because if it can be saved we can discuss taxation rather than trade >barriers. Distributed wealth is way way more benefitial for an >egalitarian society than trade barriers ever could be. And I insist on >that stance until I have seen p

Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Dear Carlo Thank you for an excellent expose of your position on world politics and your defense of the term "neoliberalism". I would however like to offer strong but friendly disagreement. To begin with, hardly any mainstream politicians today propose the free-for-all hell that you paint in your

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

I wish. The 'left' discourse has been divorced from the reality for almost a decade, since the mixed race president got into the office. This cognitive dissonance was required to imagine the progress. Everything became a meme, a notion, an idea, easy to contain, direct and bend. Instead of p

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 08:40:28AM +0100, Alexander Bard wrote: >Dear Carlo >My excuses for being rude in my response to you. And please understand >moderators took notice too. In retrospect I am unsure if replying publicly was actually useful from my side as I believe in patient but

Digital leftism in a globalised world? (Trumpism vs. neoliberalism)

Hello, Trying to catch up with all the various points of view being thrown around here; but Alexander Bard makes an important point about the “sloppy” use of terms and the inevitable consequences’, i.e. loss of meaning and discursive traction… So, I hope this adds some clarity: "Neoliberalism loo

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Dear Carlo My excuses for being rude in my response to you. And please understand moderators took notice too. That behaviour was completely unwarranted of me and I ask you to accept my full apologies. However, my asking all members of this list to not throw around the label "ne

Re: Digital leftism in a globalised world?

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 03:34:05PM +0100, Alexander Bard wrote: >Excuse me, but what kind of world do you live in? >A world where all property is owned by nation-state governments as if >they were all North Korean dictatorships? And the globe is a >competetion for most evil between

Digital leftism in a globalised world?

Excuse me, but what kind of world do you live in? A world where all property is owned by nation-state governments as if they were all North Korean dictatorships? And the globe is a competetion for most evil between these states and nothing else? Have you even heard of transnational m