Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-08 Thread Johnatan Petterson
hi Angela, regarding Tocqueville, democracy in america, i am stopped in page 134 / 376 and will have to wait to go further into my movies to be able to answer asregards to Catholicism etc as regards to Plato, i have had similar zone of interest, such as "everyone in the place" and "flihgt lines"

Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-08 Thread Angela Mitropoulos
Johnatan, I read Tocqueville's Democracy In America a very long time ago. My recollection is that he outlines a version of Plato's argument from The Republic, in which Plato claims that despotism is the necessary outcome of "too much freedom"--a very precise definition of freedom from a Platonist

Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-08 Thread tbyfield
On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:25, jan hendrik brueggemeier wrote: just to reiterate: AB was an alt-right hack of nettime? times certainly are changing ... (apologies for the slow response). I'd rather spend time on just about anything but Bard, but on this point: As far as I know, Bard's been on th

Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-08 Thread jan hendrik brueggemeier
Dear list - just to reiterate: AB was an alt-right hack of nettime? times certainly are changing ... (apologies for the slow response). i did find one website that mentioned his membership of Medborgerlig Samling (Med) or Citizens' Coalition. i lack swedish language and context understanding to g

Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-06 Thread Nina Temporär
Brilliant, thanks. Looking forward to read the links. And glad you went „meta“ and pulled this off with a certain authority, not allowing him to make you react to his/their game, In which they eternally try to assign to you either the part of a self-pitying, worthless victim, or that of an evil

Re: Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-06 Thread Johnatan Petterson
hy. thank you for the thoughts suggested into me from your writing. i have obviously not been educated enough in US Politics to find an audience in my reply, i wish i knew if the Toqueville book i am currently reading on Democracy in USA (shall along my further reading )cross refer(s ) this followi

Fascist "trolls," meta

2018-11-06 Thread Angela Mitropoulos
As briefly as possible, responses to various threads/remarks bundled up below: I've been on this list since, I think, 2003. This was the first time I've ever suggested someone be thrown off. As someone else noted, times have changed; but also, I can spot a fascist set of talking points because I'v