James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-05 Thread Patrice Riemens
Original to: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/feb/02/age-of-surveillance-capitalism-shoshana-zuboff-review The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff review – we are the pawns Tech companies want to control every aspect of what we do, for profit. A bold, important book identif

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-05 Thread Felix Stalder
I found Mozorov's massive review more interesting. https://thebaffler.com/latest/capitalisms-new-clothes-morozov Felix On 05.02.19 13:49, Patrice Riemens wrote: > Original to: > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/feb/02/age-of-surveillance-capitalism-shoshana-zuboff-review > > > > The Ag

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-07 Thread Brian Holmes
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 9:00 AM Felix Stalder > I found Mozorov's massive review more interesting. > > https://thebaffler.com/latest/capitalisms-new-clothes-morozov Yes I totally agree. Morozov presents the most important Marxist analyses that Zuboff doesn't bother to reference - exactly the ones t

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-10 Thread Francis Hunger
Indirectly related to Morozov's insightful discussion of Zuboffs "surveillance capitalism" is my own short blurb on "surveillancism" at http://databasecultures.irmielin.org/surveillancism (which I wrote without having read Zuboff) This tries to provide a

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-10 Thread Florian Cramer
While Zuboff popularized the term "surveillance capitalism" in 2015, she wasn't the first person who wrote about it. The underlying issues had already been analyzed in Wendy Chun's "Control and Freedom" from 2008. Regarding the specific surveillance capitalism of the big social media companies, Chr

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-10 Thread Florian Cramer
Postscript to my last posting: I had forgot to mention Constanze Kurz' and Frank Riegers 2011 German-language book "Die Datenfresser: Wie Internetfirmen und Staat sich unsere persönlichen Daten einverleiben und wie wir die Kontrolle darüber zurückerlangen" ("The Data-vores: How Internet companies

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-11 Thread Felix Stalder
On 08.02.19 03:27, Brian Holmes wrote: > That said, to judge by chapter 1, Surveillance Capitalism is worth > reading. It provokes and infuriates me by what it leaves out, but > it's fascinating at points and hopefully gets better as you go. > Morozov has written the perfect intro for a critical

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-11 Thread Rachel O' Dwyer
Can't wait to read these. I just started it last night but already feel like it's very reductive and suggests that this mode of extractive capital begins in 2001 with Google where there's a huge body of theory (autonomist Marxism etc) that explores the rise of these tendencies from the 1960s/1970s

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-11 Thread David Garcia
Felix wrote: > Mozorov puts lots of emphasis on her lack of engagement with other > theories of contemporary capitalism and her unwillingness to considers > options beyond the market. And, really, not even Wikipedia is ever > mentioned (expect as a source once) and Free Software only in relation >

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-11 Thread Rachel O' Dwyer
thanks! On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM David Garcia < d.gar...@new-tactical-research.co.uk> wrote: > Felix wrote: > > > Mozorov puts lots of emphasis on her lack of engagement with other > > theories of contemporary capitalism and her unwillingness to considers > > options beyond the market. An

Re: James Bridle: Review of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff (Guardian)

2019-02-11 Thread Brian Holmes
I agree with David. Chandler's "The Visible Hand" was also written from a business-school perspective, with a much greater flattening of all the stakes and a much less critical outlook; but still it's a valuable book for understanding the vertically integrated corporation, and to use as a foil when