Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-11-11 Thread Brian Holmes
Felix Stalder wrote about David Harvey's idea of separate but interrelated "activity spheres": "One cannot understand the shape and dynamics of the state without its relation to capital and vice-versa, or, increasingly, without eco-system pressures. While these domains are related, they also follo

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-11-07 Thread mp
On 07/11/2022 18:59, Felix Stalder wrote: In the 20th century, in the West, there have been, as far as I can see, three ways of reacting to such 'total crises'. Fascism, Keynesian and 'war efforts'. For 6-7000 years the same approach to the basic social metabolism (i.e. food systems) has b

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-11-07 Thread Felix Stalder
On 27.10.22 20:50, Brian Holmes wrote: Indeed. The point is now to think those politics, and make their possibilities recognizable. I think it's pretty obvious that we are living in a period that is characterized by what one could call, with a nod to Durkheim, "total social crises". Meaning

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-28 Thread podinski
Hi all, Re: Technopolitics of the future (  in the "possible follow-ups" category ... haha ! ) thx for the comments... and just to clarify... The XLterrestrials' analysis of *Guineapigdom* is an attempt to analyze ALL technological environments in the throes and whims and

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-27 Thread Brian Holmes
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 4:03 AM Felix Stalder wrote: > > there is now a collective awareness of the reality of the Anthropocene. > And this is a massive shift on collective awareness over a very short > period. It makes a wide-range of previously unthinkable politics possible. > > Indeed. The po

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-25 Thread Hoofd, I.M. (Ingrid)
ttime-l@mail.kein.org Subject: Re: Technopolitics of the future On 24/10/2022 12:56, podinski wrote: > re: mRNA developments > > One really shouldn't be surprised by these dismal achievements to " > hack the body" and " under the skin surveillance" W

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-24 Thread José María Mateos
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 11:00:44AM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote: apps etc are more or less the same than five years ago. In response, lots of VC-capital is funding blockchain technologies, which, so far, have proven completely useless. A real dead-end. They're very good for scamming people, thou

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-24 Thread mp
On 24/10/2022 12:56, podinski wrote: re: mRNA developments One really shouldn't be surprised by these dismal achievements to " hack the body" and " under the skin surveillance" Was/is mRNA a scientific achievement or a political measure, bypassing already/anyway rather weak (read: corrupt)

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-24 Thread podinski
ms: particularly the notion that the system itself must be expanded, at whatever eventual cost to life." - Lewis Mumford ( 1895-1990 ) > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:00:44 +0200 > From: Felix Stalder > To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org > Subject: Re: Technopolitics of t

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-24 Thread Felix Stalder
On 20.10.22 23:18, Brian Holmes wrote: I recall speculation on the list about whether a new technopolitical paradigm would ever take form. Would there be economic growth again? Would innovation return? Could global capitalism really develop new forms of self-regulation? Or is it stalked by en

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-22 Thread Christian Swertz
Dear Brian, > Thoughts about it? there is no doubt that we indeed have the chance to observe interesting developments. Maybe inflation should be added to the list. And the current crises might really be the expression of a paradigm shift. Since you referred to Marx: Wasn't it to be expected

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-21 Thread Evelin Stermitz
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Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-20 Thread Brian Holmes
Dear Frederic, I admire the wager on utopia, it's resonant for me. What's more, the George Floyd uprising finally made me understand how many people want to go through a social breakdown, to emerge on the other side, somewhere else. For them, the bad accident is good. It's not my desire because I

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-20 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
Dear Brian, It's always a gift to read your analysis, your posts, they really feed my attempts to understand what's going on. Just a thought: what happens when we reverse the order of things in your analysis: instead of a) the technopolitical paradigmatic shift (what appears as a sort of historic

Re: Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-20 Thread Joseph Rabie
As a first reaction to these mind boggling questions, I would say, let’s make a disorganized inventory of people, intentions, projects and see if it all points in any particular direction. Brian already spoke of the Covid vaccines. Here’s a start, quickly and messily, because it’s time for bed:

Technopolitics of the future

2022-10-20 Thread Brian Holmes
For years on nettime, the much-regretted Armin Medosch, myself, Felix Stalder and a number of others developed a theory of technopolitical paradigm shifts: a grand narrative to explain social change in industrial societies. Well, even if you don't like grand narratives, you may have noticed that a