Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-19 Thread Thomas Keenan
A graphic take on this topic: https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1286403685795405830/photo/1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CC_7UXrDHaA/ Eli Valley: "'Cancel Culture,' featuring the Portland Secret Police. All the text in this drawing is taken from two sources whose vision, strategies, and goals i

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-19 Thread Allanmini2
Hello, Thanks for your post Andreas - some useful points without the fat... So, I ask myself the question: what exactly does 'cancel culture' have to do with the price of eggs? best allan # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net critic

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2020-08-19 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
what some others think and say: "Cancel Culture": free speech in danger? (15 July 2020) https://www.eurotopics.net/en/243756/cancel-culture-free-speech-in-danger# After an open letter in which more than 150 authors, scientists and activists including Salman Rushdie, Margaret Atwood and Noam C

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-14 Thread David Garcia
Rather than disappearing entirely down the rabbit hole of definitions and interpretations, uses and misuses of the term “cancel culture” I wanted to risk returning to Garry Hall’s earlier cautionary remarks about my uncritical use of "terms and concepts like ‘argument’, ‘careful judgement’, ‘

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2020-08-14 Thread A Sparkly Kat
Germaine Greer and Julie Bindel both seem to have net worths of 1 million USD, according to google. JK Rowling, who seemed to be the main subject of the article that Maggie linked has a net worth of at least 650 million USD. These people are not legally penalized for their views. They are not being

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-14 Thread Jeffrey Fisher
What is "the trans narrative"? jeff Sent from phone. Please pardon tipos and surreal autocorrect. > On Aug 14, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Maggie Lucas > wrote: > > It’s actually the “left” that is cancelling anyone dissenting with the trans > narrative. > Margaret > >> On Aug 14, 2020, at 2:04

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-14 Thread Maggie Lucas
It’s actually the “left” that is cancelling anyone dissenting with the trans narrative. Margaret > On Aug 14, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Alice Yang wrote: > > Are we really comparing “cancel culture” which is usually associated with > bipoc and queer people raising red flags over violent behavior wit

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2020-08-14 Thread David Garcia
The usual example from the UK is Germain Greer’s views on transgender issues prompting Cardiff University’s Women’s Society to disinvite her from speaking. And the National Union of Students adopting a similar policy of ’no-platforming’ feminist writer Julie Bindel also for expressing views inte

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-14 Thread David Garcia
Thanks Gary, for critically pulling me up on an un-problemtized use of a variety of liberal bromides. Particularly telling is your last point about the danger of unwittingly putting myself at odds with the legitimate rage of oppressed groups whose tactics have been pilloried by both liberals an

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-14 Thread Zach Pearl
I feel compelled to wade in here. I’ve been a lurker on this mailing list since 2011 but never quite felt the need to jump into a thread. I’m a queer person who has spent the last 15 years working in art, design and publishing—fields that hinge on freedom of expression—and I do not support can

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2020-08-14 Thread tbyfield
Apparently so... On Aug 14, 2020, 1:05 PM -0400, Alice Yang , wrote: > Are we really comparing “cancel culture” which is usually associated with > bipoc and queer people raising red flags over violent behavior with...Nazis? # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moder

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2020-08-14 Thread Alice Yang
Are we really comparing “cancel culture” which is usually associated with bipoc and queer people raising red flags over violent behavior with...Nazis? People have talked about cancel culture as having “disastrous consequences”? Can someone provide an example of how exactly cancel culture has ri

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2020-08-14 Thread Gary Hall
David, Thanks for your post on William Davies’s recent contributions to the London Review of Books. Enjoyed it. The mention of Carl Schmitt brings to mind another critic of liberalism, Chantal Mouffe, and her philosophy of hegemony and antagonism, itself greatly influenced by Schmitt’s accou

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2020-08-14 Thread David Garcia
The whole world Cancel culture gets an even more sinister twist than usual when put through the filter of the title of a recent article by William Davies entitled “Who am I Prepared to Kill? In which he explores aspects of Nazi Jurist and philosopher Carl Schmitt influential reduction of politic

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-13 Thread Molly Hankwitz
gues extremely destructively ("A > pitty there are no KZs anymore"). So we are challenged to make decisions > about who should and can get a platform. This is a balancing act between > maintaining freedom of expression and the protection of minorities. > > > > Olivier > > &

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2020-08-13 Thread Steiner Olivier
ct between maintaining freedom of expression and the protection of minorities. Olivier Von: nettime-l-boun...@mail.kein.org Im Auftrag von Geert Lovink Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. August 2020 12:47 An: a moderated mailing list for net criticism Betreff: notes on cancel culture Delete Your Profile, Not

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-09 Thread Nathan Kramer
First of all, hi, I'm entirely new to this mailinglist, so if I'm breaking any conventions here, apologies in advance. Cancel culture is not just bound to the domain of left or rightwing politics, though the emphasis does differ between the two. I've seen some examples that say 'Hollywood shoul

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-09 Thread David Garcia
Right wing scaremongering about ‘cancel culture’ is identity politics for privileged commentators who have learned well how to play the victim card. Is it even possible to imagine a space beyond our current moronic inferno which boils everything down to one or other existential tribal identifi

Re: notes on cancel culture

2020-08-08 Thread Alice Sparkly Kat
Who are you talking about? Jeffree Star? Onision? JK Rowling? All these people still have platforms/money/are fine... A On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 6:48 AM Geert Lovink wrote: > Delete Your Profile, Not People by Geert Lovink > > “The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he nev

notes on cancel culture

2020-08-06 Thread Geert Lovink
Delete Your Profile, Not People by Geert Lovink “The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he’s in prison.” Fyodor Dostoyevsky Nobody and nothing seems safe. “Cremated” eye shadow? Canceled