Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

It looks like nettime became a thing unto itself (there must be a fancy name for that.) Due to its longevity, this was bound to happen at some point, like in biological evolution, when random amino acids get together and some combination survives, it lingers on, and given enough time, you get l

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

Gotcha: Burn the books. Cloud all digital. Restrict access to officially obsequious scholars who shall be time-capsuled. At 10:30 AM 9/4/2019, you wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 02:42, tbyfield <tbyfi...@panix.com> wrote: ... Â This list is some seriously bespoke sh

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 02:42, tbyfield wrote: > ... > This list is some seriously bespoke shit. So, if you value this list, then > part of what > you value is our judgment. And our judgment now is that it's time to > think very seriously about shutting it down AND MAYBE ALSO trying > something

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

Geoff, if you and/or anyone else is committed to nettime as a project, however you see it, then you might consider starting a new list (or whatever) dedicated to that project and recruiting people to contribute. An effort like that would face staggering obstacles, I think. Those obstacles are o

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 10:51:08AM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote: For me, the benefits have decreased, but are they close enough to zero? What could be done to increase them? What would constitute a benefit, and to whom? I don't think anything can be done to increase the benefits, other than con

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

Hi Felix, I am confused about the source and scope of the perceived threat that has led to the perception of such urgency to shut down the list. I must ask what it is about the current dynamics that the erstwhile leaders find so threatening. Perhaps it is because I have not been around Nettime b

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

ettime-l-boun...@mail.kein.org on behalf of Felix Stalder Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 3:51 AM To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org Subject: Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00 I would try to reverse the question. Not what are the costs (which are hard to calculate anyway), but what are the b

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

Hi Felix Thanks for this gesture. I'd like to comment on this, primarily in the context of the forthcoming radio discussion. If nettime does end as an active mailing list, then its archives will hold much of great value for future analysis, not least on a simple basis of gender and age and the inc

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

For me - as a long-time lurker - the benefits are about feeling connected to a wider network network of people engaged in both similar and contrasting kinds of thinking and doing. The list feels like it opens possibility of finding support in my future and current endeavours. Nettime is freed fr

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

I would try to reverse the question. Not what are the costs (which are hard to calculate anyway), but what are the benefits. And if they approach zero, then it's time to stop in a decent way (and archive the list for good). There is no use to do useless stuff. There is enough of that on the world.

Re: radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

If the cost of running the list was exactly zero (let's not delve into details at this point), would you still kill it? If yes, then we have an interesting case of potlatch, without bonfire. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net cri

radio nettime: 8 Sept 2019 12:00-13:00

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