Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-14 Thread mp
Indeed, nuclear war is a permanent feature affecting the entire planet: it's called testing (when it's the military; visualised here, commencing somewhat calmly, but then picks up pace): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY ) and chemo therapy (when it's pharma). On 14/08/17 11:19, Keith S

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-14 Thread Keith Sanborn
Rupture or rapture: limited nuclear war is an oxymoron, no matter who believes it to be meaningful. > On Aug 14, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Morlock Elloi wrote: > > Urban populations ... no one will waste nukes on peasants. Peasants and the > ruling class will survive. > > Do a search on "luxury shel

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
Urban populations ... no one will waste nukes on peasants. Peasants and the ruling class will survive. Do a search on "luxury shelters" or "doomsday bunkers" - from $1MM to $40MM a pop. It doesn't matter if they will work or not - what matters is that the buyers believe they will, and these bu

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Thomas Keenan
"A limited nuclear war" ... limited to whom? On Aug 13, 2017 5:21 PM, "Morlock Elloi" wrote: The most likely way is a limited nuclear war where most of nuclear weapons facilities are taken out and global population halved, but that's rather unappealing. # distributed via : no commercial use wit

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread Morlock Elloi
The imperial power transition was never smooth (so far), usually it takes few centuries of dark ages. Even if everything these days is accelerated 10X, we're still looking at several decades of deep s*it. The interesting speculation would be: what is the best way for the American Empire to fal

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread John Hopkins
On 10/Aug/17 06:32, heath bunting wrote: i support any nation state that attempts to dis-engage from use empire eg hungary, as the empire is the greatest law breaker and threat to global peace But, really, Heath, does the altogether expected and ongoing collapse of the Amurikan Empire signal t

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-13 Thread heath bunting
when falling, the safest place to be is on the ground as soon as possible a non resistant state of mind will limit the amount of broken bones, but there will be some injuries the eu is already broken in reality ie not a union anymore eg greece, so there is no chance to remain brexit was a div

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-10 Thread Patrice Riemens
rspective of lengthily torturing that political entity that made them suffer for so long. De Gaulle was right about the UK 'elite', and he must enjoy the spectacle from his heavenly abode ... On 2017-08-09 12:06, heath bunting wrote: nothing compared to uk On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, János Sugár

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-10 Thread David Garcia
ight about > the UK 'elite', and he must enjoy the spectacle from his heavenly abode ... > > > On 2017-08-09 12:06, heath bunting wrote: >> nothing compared to uk >> On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, János Sugár wrote: >>> Is Hungary the EU's first rogue state? &

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-10 Thread Patrice Riemens
e must enjoy the spectacle from his heavenly abode ... On 2017-08-09 12:06, heath bunting wrote: nothing compared to uk On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, János Sugár wrote: Is Hungary the EU's first rogue state? http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/08/hungary-eus-fir

Re: [spectre] the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-09 Thread heath bunting
nothing compared to uk On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, János Sugár wrote: >Is Hungary the EU's first rogue state? > >http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/08/hungary-eus-first-rogue-state-viktor-orban-and-long-march-freedom >__ >SP

the EU's first rogue state

2017-08-02 Thread János Sugár
Is Hungary the EU's first rogue state? http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/08/hungary-eus-first-rogue-state-viktor-orban-and-long-march-freedom # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filt