Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-08-01 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Dan, > > > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > > > APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice > > > in > > > that case or have a list of types per context. > > I am not sure what's the best way here, i.e. list

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 00:12 +0200, Marius Kotsbak wrote: > On 27. juli 2011 22:12, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 14:58 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > >>> Hi Oleg, > >>> > > The only tricky part is that in some cases so

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-28 Thread Marius Kotsbak
On 27. juli 2011 22:12, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 14:58 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: >>> Hi Oleg, >>> > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > APN for Internet access and MMS. We c

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 14:58 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > > Hi Oleg, > > > > > > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > > > > APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice in > > >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 15:06 +0300, Oleg Zhurakivskyy wrote: > Hello Marcel, > > On 07/22/2011 12:58 PM, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > > APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice in > > that case or ha

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Williams
On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Oleg, > > > > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > > > APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice in > > > that case or have a list of types per context. > > > > I am not

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-24 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Marius, > > Keep in mind that we are mainly looking into the possibility to > > automatically provision SIM cards the best we can. And this without any > > user interaction. > When we discuss this, usually when you insert a SIM card into a phone > now, the settings are fet

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-24 Thread Marius Kotsbak
On 24. juli 2011 12:02, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Marius, > > Keep in mind that we are mainly looking into the possibility to > automatically provision SIM cards the best we can. And this without any > user interaction. When we discuss this, usually when you insert a SIM card int

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-24 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Marius, > >>> Keep in mind that we are mainly looking into the possibility to > >>> automatically provision SIM cards the best we can. And this without any > >>> user interaction. > >> When we discuss this, usually when you insert a SIM card into a phone > >> now, the settings are fetched from

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-23 Thread Marius Kotsbak
On 23. juli 2011 16:43, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Marius, > >>> Keep in mind that we are mainly looking into the possibility to >>> automatically provision SIM cards the best we can. And this without any >>> user interaction. >> When we discuss this, usually when you insert a SIM card into a phon

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Marius, > > Keep in mind that we are mainly looking into the possibility to > > automatically provision SIM cards the best we can. And this without any > > user interaction. > > When we discuss this, usually when you insert a SIM card into a phone > now, the settings are fetched from the SIM c

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-23 Thread Marius Kotsbak
On 23. juli 2011 15:48, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Andrew, > >> diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd >> index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 >> --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd >> +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd >> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ >> >> passw

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Andrew, > > > > > diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > > index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 > > > > > --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > > +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > > > > > > > > > password?, > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Oleg, > > The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same > > APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice in > > that case or have a list of types per context. > > I am not sure what's the best way here, i.e. list of types vs listing the APN >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Den 22. juli 2011 15:06, skrev Oleg Zhurakivskyy: Hello Andrew, Marcel, On 07/22/2011 01:28 PM, Andrew Bird (Sphere Systems) wrote: Contract Plan (MMS retrieval bandwidth is zero rated) internet access is via 'internet' APN MMS retrieval is via 'wap.vodafone.co.uk' APN Prepay Plan (M

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Oleg Zhurakivskyy
Hello Andrew, Marcel, On 07/22/2011 01:28 PM, Andrew Bird (Sphere Systems) wrote: How would you describe the association between MMS and internet APNs? For example in the UK Vodafone has the following APN usage: Contract Plan (MMS retrieval bandwidth is zero rated) internet access is v

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Oleg Zhurakivskyy
Hello Marcel, On 07/22/2011 12:58 PM, Marcel Holtmann wrote: The only tricky part is that in some cases some providers use the same APN for Internet access and MMS. We could just list the context twice in that case or have a list of types per context. I am not sure what's the best way here, i.

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Oleg Zhurakivskyy
Hello Marius, On 07/22/2011 12:29 PM, Marius Kotsbak wrote: What about the most common/useful case; internet/mobile broadband, that you normally want to choose when connecting from a PC. Do you want that to be default? I think it should be specified explicit to know where it is actually specifie

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Andrew Bird (Sphere Systems)
Hi Marcel, On Friday 22 July 2011, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > > > > diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 > > > > --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > > > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Andrew, > > > diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 > > > --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > > > > > password?, > > > dns*)> > > > > > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Andrew Bird (Sphere Systems)
Hi Marcel, On Friday 22 July 2011, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Oleg, > > > diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 > > --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > > > password?, > >

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Oleg, > diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 > --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd > +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > password?, > dns*)> > > + I would propose "internet", "mms" and "wap" as ty

Re: [PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-22 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Den 21. juli 2011 14:13, skrev Oleg Zhurakivskyy: --- serviceproviders.2.dtd |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd @@ -18,6

[PATCH 1/4] DTD changes for mms, prepaid, wap

2011-07-21 Thread Oleg Zhurakivskyy
--- serviceproviders.2.dtd |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/serviceproviders.2.dtd b/serviceproviders.2.dtd index d150a99..a0c5a31 100644 --- a/serviceproviders.2.dtd +++ b/serviceproviders.2.dtd @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ password?, d