Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-29 Thread Peter Roediger
There's no doubt that periodic scanning is indeed important and convenient. But there's not always the case that people want to actually know about all the networks around them, but they just want to connect to a specific one. For example, if you have wired connection you most likely want to conne

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 16:53 +0100, Peter Roediger wrote: > Alright, but wouldn't it be way smarter to just scan for wireless > networks on unplugging the wired network? Then it would connect > immediately and automatically to the preferred network without any > user interaction. > This is somethin

Re: Why BSSID? (was Re: A couple of minor issues with NM)

2006-12-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 14:18 -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > SSID before. It's all based of SSID, and while that may have worked in > > the past, we'll probably have to change that to some combination of SSID > > +BSSID sooner rather than later. > > I s

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-28 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/28/06, Timo Hoenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KNetworkManager tells NetworkManager that there is user interaction -- > which in turn raises the scanning frequency -- whenever there is a mouse > enter event on the tray icon. Thanks Timo! ___ Net

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-28 Thread Derek Broughton
On Thursday 28 December 2006 11:53, Peter Roediger wrote: > Alright, but wouldn't it be way smarter to just scan for wireless networks > on unplugging the wired network? Then it would connect immediately and > automatically to the preferred network without any user interaction. > This is something

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-28 Thread Peter Roediger
Alright, but wouldn't it be way smarter to just scan for wireless networks on unplugging the wired network? Then it would connect immediately and automatically to the preferred network without any user interaction. This is something that probably needs to be changed in nm itself but not in the app

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-28 Thread Timo Hoenig
Hi, On Mon, 2006-12-25 at 10:11 -0500, Darren Albers wrote: > On 12/24/06, Peter Roediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) My laptop (like many other laptops i think) has a bright and, when not > > connected, flashing LED for the ipw2200 which I turn off when I'm on the > > wired network. When t

Why BSSID? (was Re: A couple of minor issues with NM)

2006-12-26 Thread Derek Atkins
Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SSID before. It's all based of SSID, and while that may have worked in > the past, we'll probably have to change that to some combination of SSID > +BSSID sooner rather than later. I still don't understand why you need this change. Why is the SSID not

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-25 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2006-12-25 at 09:54 -0500, Darren Albers wrote: > On 12/24/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 25 December 2006 00:53, Darren Albers wrote: > > > > > Ok so lets narrow the focus to just the issues you are having, next > > > time you reboot and it does not see your ac

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-25 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/24/06, Peter Roediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > > As I'm using a dhcp served network now, with both, wired and wireless LAN > available, i thought i should give the current stable version (0.6.4) of > network manager a try. I'm on a pretty customized debian unstable, with > 2.6.1

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-25 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/24/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 25 December 2006 00:53, Darren Albers wrote: > > > Ok so lets narrow the focus to just the issues you are having, next > > time you reboot and it does not see your access point if you run the > > command iwlist scanning does it sho

Re: A couple of minor issues

2006-12-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 18:28 +0100, Peter Roediger wrote: > Hi all! > > As I'm using a dhcp served network now, with both, wired and wireless > LAN available, i thought i should give the current stable version > (0.6.4) of network manager a try. I'm on a pretty customized debian > unstable, with 2.

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Monday 25 December 2006 00:53, Darren Albers wrote: > Ok so lets narrow the focus to just the issues you are having, next > time you reboot and it does not see your access point if you run the > command iwlist scanning does it show all the access > points after a few runs? I think I've made a

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/24/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it were always like that I would be happy; > but if I re-boot it may or may not come up like this. > NM may see only one network, or it may see none. > As I said, NM in my experience is completely unpredictable. > Ok so lets narrow the fo

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Sunday 24 December 2006 21:43, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > There are two things that involve keys in your wireless link: > authentication (are you allowed to connect to the access point) and > encryption (is the data you send and receive over the air encrypted). If > you use WEP, then your data

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Sunday 24 December 2006 21:43, Darren Albers wrote: > What you are calling Open are really unencrypted access points, though > I guess it is common for people to call them open, but when you select > WEP there are open and shared modes and that is what we are talking > about so lets forget abou

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Timothy Murphy wrote: > On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:54, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > >>> I checked my access point (a Linksys WRT54LG running dd-wrt) >>> and there is no mention of "shared" or "open" that I can see. >>> I am asked if I want to use a key, and if so what kind >>>

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/24/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:54, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > > I checked my access point (a Linksys WRT54LG running dd-wrt) > > > and there is no mention of "shared" or "open" that I can see. > > > I am asked if I want to use a key, and if

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 19:42 -0500, Darren Albers wrote: > > > No. > > It always tries to connect to a network I very seldom use. > > Are both open network or is one WEP and the other open? I /think/ > that Network Manager will not automatically connect to an unencrypted > network but I am not ce

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:54, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > I checked my access point (a Linksys WRT54LG running dd-wrt) > > and there is no mention of "shared" or "open" that I can see. > > I am asked if I want to use a key, and if so what kind > > (WEP, WPA, RADIUS, etc). > > My Netgear config

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Timothy Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 December 2006 23:47, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > >>> What exactly is the different between "shared" and "open"? >>> I just have a key set on my access point, >>> and I give that key on each machine accessing the AP. >>> Is that shared or op

A couple of minor issues

2006-12-24 Thread Peter Roediger
Hi all! As I'm using a dhcp served network now, with both, wired and wireless LAN available, i thought i should give the current stable version (0.6.4) of network manager a try. I'm on a pretty customized debian unstable, with 2.6.19 kernel, an ipw2200 (driver version 1.2.0) network card and wire

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Saturday 23 December 2006 23:47, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > What exactly is the different between "shared" and "open"? > > I just have a key set on my access point, > > and I give that key on each machine accessing the AP. > > Is that shared or open? > > > > Actually, I tried replying both "sh

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006, Timothy Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 December 2006 02:00, Darren Albers wrote: >> >> This is off topic for this list but I still have no idea what this: >> "with files all over the place" means On my system they are in the >> location I expect them to be. > > In the clas

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-23 Thread Dan Williams
On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 03:38 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 December 2006 02:00, Darren Albers wrote: > > > > I should say that I am using KDE rather than Gnome. > > > It seems that NetworkManager leans fairly heavily towards Gnome. > > > Maybe it is not a good choice for KDE users?

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Saturday 23 December 2006 02:00, Darren Albers wrote: > > I should say that I am using KDE rather than Gnome. > > It seems that NetworkManager leans fairly heavily towards Gnome. > > Maybe it is not a good choice for KDE users? > > Oops, I forgot that you are running KDE, I am not sure where >

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/22/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read your FAQ, and deleted the entries in .gconf/system/networking/wireless/ > relating to the network I did not want to connect to. > But this didn't appear to have the slightest effect; > when I re-booted the deleted network still came

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Saturday 23 December 2006 00:42, Darren Albers wrote: > > It always tries to connect to a network I very seldom use. > > Are both open network or is one WEP and the other open? I /think/ > that Network Manager will not automatically connect to an unencrypted > network but I am not certain sinc

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/22/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No. > It always tries to connect to a network I very seldom use. Are both open network or is one WEP and the other open? I /think/ that Network Manager will not automatically connect to an unencrypted network but I am not certain since I

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Friday 22 December 2006 17:52, Darren Albers wrote: > > 1) I have two WiFi networks in this house, > > but I always use one of them, with ESSID dd-wrt. > > I read somewhere that NM would work out which network > > was usually used; > > but in my case this does not seem to work - > > NM always c

Re: A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Darren Albers
On 12/22/06, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've recently gone over to NM, > and it has solved a few problems for me, > but it has brought a few new ones with it: > > 1) I have two WiFi networks in this house, > but I always use one of them, with ESSID dd-wrt. > I read somewhere that N

A couple of minor issues with NM

2006-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
I've recently gone over to NM, and it has solved a few problems for me, but it has brought a few new ones with it: 1) I have two WiFi networks in this house, but I always use one of them, with ESSID dd-wrt. I read somewhere that NM would work out which network was usually used; but in my case this