Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-18 Thread Stuart Gathman
Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 08/15/2012 05:09 AM, Tore Anderson would write: *** A very good summary of IP6 RA and DHCP interaction. *** This should go in a FAQ somewhere. I'm going to copy it, if you don't mind. ___ networkmanager-list

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-15 Thread Tore Anderson
* Stuart Gathman > Forgive my ignorance, but when you have an address on a /80 LAN subnet, > isn't it more efficient to send packets for that subnet directly, rather > than bouncing them off a router? Assuming the network type is broadcast/multicast capable, yes. In that case, you'll want to adve

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-14 Thread Stuart Gathman
Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 08/09/2012 08:48 AM, Pavel Simerda would write: > DHCPv6 should not care about *any* routes. >> and prefixes should only be used in routers. > I don't understand this. > The problem that was confusing me is that NM was setting a (hardwired by dhclient) prefix

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-09 Thread Pavel Simerda
> From: "Stuart D Gathman" > One situation that ought to work IMHO (although ~1/2 of IPv6 experts > disagree) is that DHCP6 should work in concert with routes that are > not /64. DHCPv6 should not care about *any* routes. > For instance, RA provides a 2001:db8:1:2:3::1/80 default route, Default

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Stuart D Gathman > Ah yes. When the RA router IPs are link local, you don't care about > a prefix (link local IPs are a cool feature of IP6). But *sometimes*, > the router IP is global, A route learned from an RA will *always* have a link-local next-hop. RAs sent from other than link-local ad

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-08 Thread Stuart D Gathman
On 08/08/2012 03:00 AM, Tore Anderson expounded in part: This could get non-trivial when there are multiple routes provided by RA. NM must then find the route that matches the DHCP6 address to determine the correct prefix. An address assigned by DHCPv6 IA_NA is just that, a single address. DH

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Stuart D Gathman > One situation that ought to work IMHO (although ~1/2 of IPv6 experts > disagree) is that DHCP6 should work in concert with routes that are > not /64. Agreed. As it happens, NM recently gained support for such setups. > For instance, RA provides a 2001:db8:1:2:3::1/80 default

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-07 Thread Dan Winship
On 08/07/2012 05:00 PM, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > One situation that ought to work IMHO (although ~1/2 of IPv6 experts > disagree) is that DHCP6 should work in concert with routes that are not > /64. For instance, RA provides a 2001:db8:1:2:3::1/80 default route Note that: If the sum of the p

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-07 Thread Stuart D Gathman
On 08/03/2012 05:33 PM, Dan Williams expounded in part: That's correct, but at the time that bug was filed I did not know enough about IPv6 configuration to suggest the correct course of action. I now know much more and realize that adding it back was a mistake. We should really deprecate that

Re: IPv6 default routes / NM vs. kernel autoconfig vs DHCP6

2012-08-07 Thread Stuart D Gathman
On 08/03/2012 05:33 PM, Dan Williams expounded in part: That's correct, but at the time that bug was filed I did not know enough about IPv6 configuration to suggest the correct course of action. I now know much more and realize that adding it back was a mistake. We should really deprecate that