Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread Harrie Hazewinkel
HI, I like the idea of splitting the scoreboard like Bill Stoddard mentioned. There should be a component that is for the MPM to do process/application management and a component for mod_status. On top of this, I was wondering if it would be an idea to create a seperate ap_hook for this?? Then

Re: memory allocation (was Re: mod_include performance numbers)

2001-04-22 Thread dean gaudet
can you give a short description of this allocator? -dean On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Greg Ames wrote: are you thinking about an atomic push/pop block allocator? I'll be happy to help out if so, especially with the machine instruction level stuff.

Re: httpd distrib - was: Re: [VOTE] mod_proxy in?

2001-04-22 Thread Chuck Murcko
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 12:52 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Chuck Murcko wrote: So did the discussion then stall on the best tool(s)? Yeah, and implementation and how to handle it and repository locations, etc... :) Back then we weren't that clear, IIRC, on how to do things like

RE: mod_include performance numbers

2001-04-22 Thread Jeffrey A. Stuart
Comment's interspersed... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Ames Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mod_include performance numbers "Jeffrey A. Stuart" wrote: I'd like to amen that... I'm

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread Greg Ames
Bill Stoddard wrote: AFAIK, Paul hit this problem because of idle_server_maintenance and/or MaxRequestsPerChild - true? If that's really the extent of it, I believe there's a pretty easy solution. If you buy that, then why doesn't that solution work for MaxRequestsPerChild as

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread rbb
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Greg Ames wrote: Bill Stoddard wrote: AFAIK, Paul hit this problem because of idle_server_maintenance and/or MaxRequestsPerChild - true? If that's really the extent of it, I believe there's a pretty easy solution. If you buy that, then why doesn't that

What Apache admins want (Was: mod_include performance numbers)

2001-04-22 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, Just wanted to add to Jeff's comments about what folks running Apache want. Here's some background. I work at Tellme--we run a consumer voice portal (1-800-555-TELL) and also host voice services for enterprise customers. Our ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE is HTTP based. When a user calls into our

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread rbb
OK, it's committed...works swell for me. Paul? Um... This is an incredibly dangerous change. This makes Apache shutdown one threaded process at a time. I think we have all downloaded tarballs that are hundreds of megs, which can take a few hours to download. What happens if

Re: What Apache admins want (Was: mod_include performance numbers)

2001-04-22 Thread Bill Stoddard
Good stuff, Thanks! Bill Hello, Just wanted to add to Jeff's comments about what folks running Apache want. Here's some background. I work at Tellme--we run a consumer voice portal (1-800-555-TELL) and also host voice services for enterprise customers. Our ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE is

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:34 PM FirstBill saiz I agree with you Ryan. Haven't thought about this much over the weekend, but my inclination is that a combination of strategies is required. First, split the scoreboard into two, one for process management

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread rbb
I agree with you Ryan. Haven't thought about this much over the weekend, but my inclination is that a combination of strategies is required. First, split the scoreboard into two, one for process management and one for status. The process management scoreboard will be small enough

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread Greg Ames
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Greg Ames wrote: Bill Stoddard wrote: AFAIK, Paul hit this problem because of idle_server_maintenance and/or MaxRequestsPerChild - true? If that's really the extent of it, I believe there's a pretty easy solution.

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread Greg Ames
Greg Ames wrote: Bill Stoddard wrote: Show us some code :-) OK, it's committed...works swell for me. Paul? uhhh, Paul, it's not so swell after all, so don't bother with it on my account. btw, any progress on getting the signalling/shutdown stuff working better? Thanks, Greg

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread Greg Ames
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um... This is an incredibly dangerous change. This makes Apache shutdown one threaded process at a time. I think we have all downloaded tarballs that are hundreds of megs, which can take a few hours to download. What happens if while my server is

Re: Suggested direction for fixing threaded mpm thread startup.

2001-04-22 Thread rbb
It doesn't affect any operator initiated shutdown/restart commands, only internal algorithmically generated things like perform_idle_server_maintenance and MaxRequestsPerChild. Then it doesn't solve the problem that Paul was talking about. AFAIK, the specific problem that Paul had

Patches for perl 5.6.1, Apache and modperl for the AIX 4.3 native dlopen

2001-04-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Mager
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