Ok I posted this question to the list a few days ago with no reply but I was able to find a way to get this card up and running. I looked through the news archives (http://groups.google.com) and found quite a few threads that got me going. The howto is way to outdated for use with Mandrake Freq. Any way all I did was edit /etc/modules.conf the folowing was the needed lines: alias char-major-81 videodev alias char-major-81-0 bttv options tuner type=5 options bttv card=10 post-remove bttv modprobe -r msp3400; modprobe -r tuner pre-install bttv modprobe -k msp3400; modprobe -k tuner I'm not 100% sure on what all those things mean but have a general idea (downloaded the bttv tarball just for the readme's). Next I need to get it working well in X (fullscreen) it keeps moving the res and I read somewhere that X needs some tweaking.. Any Ideas? I have XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk right now with a Voodoo3. I have a feeling X is only working through sheer miracle though because my Voodoo card is pci and Mandrake detected an on board chip i810 during install so I had to change that with xf86cfg and drakconf. So I dont think I have 3d excel or anything. Anyone give me a hand getting the tv full screen with my vid card? I can right now but only 640x480 wich I dont want I want 1024x768. TIA Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/