Hi, Managed to successfully loose the contents of all my HD's the other night, and whilst i re-installed everything in the end i have a couple of questions. I have a 2x4x CDRW as my Secondry master (hdc) and a 5x32x DVD as my secondry slave (hdd). Obviously i wanted to install usinmg the DVD drive as it's way quicker, but try as i might i couldn't get the Mandrake install to find it. Is this because it's a DVD or is it just default that when a CD isn't found in HDC it doesn't bother looking at HDD. Could my install think it's a hard disk as on bootup i get 'starting hard disk optimizations' for hda, hdb AND hdd !! If either of my ussumptions are correct, can this behaviour be overridden with any options in LILO ? Thanks again !! Martin.