Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-12 Thread robin
Carl J. Bauman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:45:09 -0400 Todd Slater disseminated the following: If you had any guts, you'd post this to the expert list to see what Chris Fox has to say. Please avoid any political sigs; the right wingers seem to have taken control ove

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 10:54 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:32:09 -0500 > > "Carl J. Bauman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess I'm not clear on why anyone would have any political sigs, > > right, left, or middle wing, on an OS mailing list. Is Mandrake, or > > Linux in gene

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-11 Thread Anders Lind
On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:32:09 -0500 "Carl J. Bauman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I'm not clear on why anyone would have any political sigs, > right, left, or middle wing, on an OS mailing list. Is Mandrake, or > Linux in general, inherently political? I didn't realize I was making a

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-11 Thread Carl J. Bauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:45:09 -0400 Todd Slater disseminated the following: If you had any guts, you'd post this to the expert list to see what Chris Fox has to say. Please avoid any political sigs; the right wingers seem to have taken control over there. -- cmg

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-10 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 09:32:51PM -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > If you had any guts, you'd post this to the expert list to see what Chris Fox > has to say. Please avoid any political sigs; the right wingers seem to have > taken control over there. > -- cmg Wasn't it just a couple of people

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-10 Thread frankieh
JoeHill wrote: 'It's your fault. Yeah you, Mr. or Ms. Corporate IT Person. Microsoft says it's your fault, and the fault of your users, that there are so many security problems with Microsoft software. Oh, sure, there are security holes in Microsoft products. But Microsoft does patch them -- event

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-10 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:32:51 -0400 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: > > http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/holes/story/0,10801,92 > >802,00.html > > Joe: > Actually, he understates the true cost of MS negligence by not mentioning that > the RestOfUs (Linuxers, Mac typ

Re: [newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-10 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 10 May 2004 07:31 pm, JoeHill wrote: > 'It's your fault. Yeah you, Mr. or Ms. Corporate IT Person. Microsoft says > it's your fault, and the fault of your users, that there are so many > security problems with Microsoft software. Oh, sure, there are security > holes in Microsoft products.

[newbie] MS: It's the *users* fault

2004-05-10 Thread JoeHill
'It's your fault. Yeah you, Mr. or Ms. Corporate IT Person. Microsoft says it's your fault, and the fault of your users, that there are so many security problems with Microsoft software. Oh, sure, there are security holes in Microsoft products. But Microsoft does patch them -- eventually. And unle