First off thank you for finally fixing the boot sequence when it pretains to pcmcia cards and laptops. This new release helps my laptop get on the network immediately because the pcmcia card is initialize before the network dhcp is. KDE looks good and for that matter so does Gnome. Some of the functions still don't work in KDE in Beta 3, but it is a beta. I did notice a couple of my favorite windows managers. Where is my lovely Afterstep and Enlightment. I enjoy having desktops with absolutely nothing, but windows pagers. I love not seeing the Gnome start menu and Kde desktop. I like open spaces. Is there any plans to include them in the final or next beta release. Also since Red Hat 7.0 has included the openssh, openssl, and kerberos support is their any plans to include these packages with the final release of Mandrake 7.2 Eric
