Frank, I think you're wise to hold off on this one for now as Derek and 
yourself have said.

Look what happened with the KT133A... I rushed out and bought a Soltek 
SL-75KAV with that chipset only to find that the VIA bug thing is a bit of 
a pain and Mandrake had to provide a workaround in a big hurry.  Because 
of this in LM8.0 my hd ran much slower than it should have, others were 
not able to burn CDs (I didn't have that prob) and I think there were a 
few other problems.  Although in LM8.1 my hd runs faster :-) I'm still a 
bit p*ssed off that I was hasty in buying the latest and the greatest.  
And I hate seeing the "Applying (??) workaround" message when booting.

I've learned my lesson so I'm going to wait a wee while to see if the 
Nforce works with linux.  Hope so.

skinky


On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 01:31, Franki wrote:
|  From what I can gather, Nforce will have linux drivers, (Nvidia have
| pledged to this)
|
|  but apparently they will be partially closed source like the detonator
|  drivers.
|
|  The first question I have is will linux install well enough to let you
|  install the drivers?
|
|  the second is that while I have no doubts that future bios revisions
| and driver updates will
|  dramatically improve its performance, (who remembers the very first
|  detonators?) how long will it
|  be before they release the updates and will the whole kernel thing have
| to be gone through each time..??
|
|  maybe I will go with the KT266A since there is currently so little in
| it..
|
|  at least until more is known..
|
|
|  rgds
|
|
|  Frank
|
|
|
|
|
|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
|  Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2001 8:20 PM
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: Re: [newbie] Nvidia Nforce mainboards are here...
|
|
|  Your choice is ultimately your own, and I agree it is a hot looking
| chipset, but I would suggest a note of caution.
|
|  Firstly the nForce is unique in that it has a single driver for the
| entire chipset. This makes it revolutionary. Do we know it works with
| Linux at all? and if it does will it work efficiently?
|
|  Secondly NVIDIA notoriously will not release source code for their
| drivers, so you will be dependent on an NVIDIA driver. When will it
| come? will it work
|  with your distro?
|
|  Thirdly the NVIDIA was truly awsome when it was announced, but since
| then VIA
|  have brought out KT266A. Tests performed at Anandtech demonstrate that
|  NForce
|  does not have quite the performance lead we were hoping for
|  http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=1535&p=1
|
|  To summarise Anandtechs conclusions :-
|  The integrated video while better than other integrated videos still 
| hits performance hard, so an external video card is really necessary.
| The dual bank memory architecture hits the bottleneck of the Athlons
| 266MHz front side bus and offers little advantage at the moment.
|
|
|  I'm also very tempted by the NForce,  but I think this is a good time
| to not be first :)
|
|
|  On Saturday 03 November 2001 10:03, Franki wrote:
|  > Hi all,
|  >
|  > It looks like my main server will be getting another upgrade
|  > shortly,,
|  >
|  > to a Athlon XP 1800+ CPU with 512MB of DDR ram.
|  >
|  > I have been looking for a good motherboard for it..
|  >
|  > I found this, which looks to be one of the fastest.
|  >
|  > http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/k7n420pro.htm
|  >
|  > its based on the Nvidia Nforce chipset, and that is supposed to be
|  > one of the most advanced amd boards available.
|  >
|  > Can anyone tell me if it works with linux?
|  >
|  > I would love to fit this puppy,, I don't care if the sound even
|  > works, and not necessarily the video either..
|  >
|  > If they don't work out of the box I will just use my sb PCI and TNT2
|  > board I have here until they do work.
|  >
|  > I just want to know if linux will run on the board using that
|  > chipset..
|  >
|  > a system using that CPU, 512 of DDR and an Nforce board would really
|  > fly..
|  >
|  > just need to know if it will get off the ground running linux.
|  >
|  > For anyone interested in the performance,, here is a benchmark of the
|  > msi board.
|  >
|  > http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000232
|  >
|  > They say its the fastest socket A mainboard by at least 10%,
|  > depending on what its used for, some of the differences were alot
|  > higher.
|  >
|  > And thats with first generation drivers... Nvidia is well known for
|  > dramatic performance increases just by driver.
|  >
|  > I don't yet see any linux drivers for it on the nvidia site..
|  >
|  >
|  >
|  > rgds
|  >
|  > Frank

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