Its probably a case of HP wanting to give people that ask PC's without
windows.
So to stop M$ getting upset, they are offering mandrake, they are probably
getting
it for a couple of dollars a pop.. and its better then offering freedos on a
disk.
(more useful in their minds I guess.)

It aint much, but its something..

I think the inroads will come when a couple of the big HW vendors get
together and realise
that they are being extorted into offering windows on everything.. and if
they were to sue M$
for it.. they might get some leeway.. if all the big guys out there were in
on it.. M$ wounldn't dream of "not selling" them windows.. they'd lose money
and market share if they did.

I wish the DOJ had forced M$ to release office for linux.. not cos I want
it.. but because it would have cost M$ bigtime, and would have made linux
seem alot more of an option to companies considering it.



rgds

Franki


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
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On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 16:28, Frankie wrote:
> thats fantastic.. I hope they do alot of business..
> And i hope the mandrake machines are much cheaper.
>
> now if Dell and all the other biggies would sit up and take notice. linux
> may well make a desktop dent.
> rgds
> Franki

Part of that would entail "getting in good" with the hardware
manufacturers - that's where Microsoft has made the inroads. It might be
done with smaller, more flexible "start ups", but the big dogs - Dell,
HP and the lot - are all butt-buddies with M$ and it would take more
than a gigantic crowbar to get'em apart.
(Sorry for the colourful metaphor)

Projects like "The Microsoft Refund" help to make inroads in this
arena...and hopefully, with more momentum, the day will come to pass
where the computer systems are sold specifically with OS options.
(No, I ain't been smokin' nuthin'...)

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