SG> Is enlightenment KDE compliant? if so how do i go about getting it to run SG> under KDE? kde.org wasnt much help sad to say. . . Yes Enlightenment is KDE compliant :-) I am running the latest release DR 0.16 of Enlightenment under KDE right now. While kde.org doesn't have much info, if you dig deep enough you'll find a little item in their FAQ which says to comment out KWM in your startkde script and to replace it with a call to exec the WM of your choice. While this is partially true, you also have to comment out calls to (rootkwm and sourcekwm or something similar ... I'm not at my Linux box at the moment) in your starkde script to get Enlightenment running. Otherwise, E complains that you already have another window manager running. HTH. Fahim