On Thursday 13 February 2003 08:08 am, Robert Wideman wrote:

> Dude, go take some morphine (or your favorite illegal drug) and space out
> for a while.
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>
>
> Rob

True..he's way out of line with that comment and that finally convinced me not 
to vote for the "old" rpmdrake in list of rpm's we want to find in 9.1.

This yelling and sreaming does, sadly, take us away from the major point.  The 
UI, not the underlying engine(s), are nuts.  Let's remember what these 4 
windows are doing.  They are accessing funtionality in urpmi.  (And no, I 
don't want to go back to the slower version.)   These windows all access the 
same underlying engine(s).

In normal UI design, given the above, it is normal practise to place all the 
functionality in a single window.  Not 4..but 1. In O-O programming it ought 
to be a fairly trivial task to place all of these functions in a single, 
tabbed window.  Even procedural programming, properly done, should allow for 
this.  So I find the excuse that it can't be done to be nothing short of 
unbelieveable.

And there have been times that I have had to have all 4 windows open at once, 
though not many.  Often, though, it's at least 2.

Incidentally it's times like this when I wish I was (a) retired or (b) 
independantly wealthy so that I could volunteer to write help files cause 
someone has to learn to do it.  :-)

One more, rather disturbing thing.   I can close down, say, the Sources window 
and a minute or two later come back to open the Update window.  Opening the 
secound window within something like a 120-160 secound time frame allows a 
user to open the second window without a challenge for the root password.  
IMHO this is not a good thing.

That said..I'll go look at the cooker lists and say that this is my last 
comment on this subject. 

Have fun and happy computing!

ttfn

John

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