Just in case anyones interested, i'm leaving the list after today (too many work commitments to keep up at the moment). I've been pretty quiet on the above subjects lately (again due to other work), but if anyone requires any help with either subject i will still endeavour to be of help, just that you'll have to go to my website which can be found via the offsite links in the hardware section of mandrakeuser.org (thanks guy's i do appreciate those links being there!). Incidentally, the sites a little out of date right now, but i'm endeavouring to get it up to date with the latest SBLive info this week. Adios for now, Martin.