Hey, When I attempt to get backtraces from gdb (either from bug-buddy or manually from a core file) they often times do not contain *any* useful information. I can provide an example if it becomes necessary (I don't have one handy at this time). Suffice to say that what a bt reports is only signal information, and not enough to do any sufficent debugging. Is this because the program was compiled without debugging symbols? Much of my software is installed from RPM or src.rpm files -- maybe these have debugging symbols turned off by default? Please help... Regards, cyberclay --- cclay at fastlane dot net I think, therefore I am dangerous http://www.hsien.net