Well I am able to dial out and connect using kppp as root or as a user, however netscape doesnt recognize that I am connected so kppp isnt doing me alot of good at this point. Now I can dial out as root using the kwvdial and netscape works etc... but as a user when I dial out it goes through the connection process then promptly disconnects even though at the bottom of the kwvdial window it says I am connected. I know I am missing something but I sure dont know what it is. I have added some stuff to resolv.conf and that is what allowed me to use kwvdial as root. I have manually changed permissions on ttyS1 (modem is on this port) I am using an external usrobotics 56k modem. Any help would be appreciated. JohnC