Thank you all for the previous reply to the questions I have sent . During the preparation stage of installing oracle 8.05 for linux I am encountering probleme creating user and adding it to the group I have followed the how to install oracle : created a group dba created a user oracle pwd oracle typed a new password log out tried to log back into KDE :login failed Okay then I go to emacs passwd edit user put * instead of password again failed groups oracle =id:oracle:no such user and yes after each modification using emacs I think it autosaves the changes Thank you in advance for the help