Thanks to Alan. I've been subscribed to the digest version and Have sent numerous messages for help, to no avail Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [newbie] test Pat....yep, it got here, but give it time. It usually takes a few hours for a message to come back to you from the list. There is also a reason for a message to not show up at all (obviously not your problem), that's when a person joins the digest version of the list and digest-members don't have posting privileges. ****END ALANS MESSAGE*** 3rd time to send to this list... Purchased Mandrake Linux 5.3 (festen) v2.0.36 LM53-183-LML-3RVA-J5RV Trying to install into an older box. 486DX/2 ACER ALTOS w/ 16ram the following hardware 1.04GB Quantum Fireball Goldstar R540B IDE CDROM KFC 15" SVGA Monitor Also has Adaptec AHA-2740 SCSI which attaches to a Micropolis Radion LT RAID, However I am not loading the RAID components into the Bios "at boot time" until the problem with the graphics card & mouse problem worked out. Mouse is Generic "cheapo" 3-button IBM PC/XT/AT/386/486 Serial Port mouse. (configured to /dev/ttyS0) Graphics card is this: It is an ISA slot so I've tried 2 Cirrus Logic Boards (One supported & the other not on the supported hardware list) Neither one worked, both crap out when trying "startx" (CL-GD5430 CL-GD5402). So Now I have a Hercules Dynamite ET4000 W32i which gives me a picture but craps out trying to "startx" Have used Xconfigurator & XF86Config several times to try and make it work. XF86Setup starts IF I SAY NO to the dialog that says something about using current setup or NO. BUT mouse don't work. Keyboard Does SO I try to set the Card up from here. But get a message that says "Can't load or find XF86_W32". "Must install" So I use Xconfigurator & XF86Config AGAIN to try and generate the server. (over and over I've done this) Wrong huh? Have also read README.tseng, README.Config & one about XF86_W32?? BUT I still Do not understand How to install the XF86_W32 server. Oh at One point (same card) I had KDE running (NO MOUSE, NO KEYBORD) and the screen looked way "out-of-proportion", The KDE button was huge, (The Screen/GUI Elements looked Way Too Big) Cntrl + Alt + Delete DID NOT work at this point either and I JUST had to sut 'er down w/power switch. Also Did X -probeonly and it says 2MB Video Ram, hibit state=high, Ramdac music 4910 <<<<< I too am a little new to Linux but Not to DOS so 'scuse me if I sound Dense ;>). What do I have to do to install the correct server for my card? walt PS where on linux-mandrake.com site is the free tech support?? -- EarthSong Graphics (607) 965-8552 Digital Design and More http://www.tattoozone.com/earthsong [EMAIL PROTECTED] "...and follow your own star." -author unknown