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--------------------------------- [27] Is that your final offer --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: MEN reports that we are likely to up our bid to £2.5m for Di Canio today. --------------------------------- [26] Slapped wrists expected --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Reports from Utd snouts in Brum say that Villa are giving out signals that our allocation could be reduced after last night. We were warned about standing and with the pitch invasions and all the moaning in the local media there about us no doubt we'll see another Boro like situation. Although saying that, perhaps not as this is one club who can't seem to do a Boro and Sunderland - sell those spare extra tickets to home fans as judging by all those empty seats last night, cutting us back will see them unsold rather than sold to ABUs. RN comment: Take what happened into context. Don't punish us. Er, that's it. --------------------------------- [25] More from Shotgun Gregory --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "Their passing was the telling factor. Ruud van Nistelrooy cost £19million and he is worth every penny of that." --------------------------------- [24] More from Roeder --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "Very late on Friday afternoon we did receive a faxed offer from Manchester United for the services of Paolo Di Canio but we turned it down. We sent a fax back to say we couldn't accept their offer. It's now up to people to ask Manchester United what the next step will be." --------------------------------- [23] Forlan comments in full too --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "You always dream of joining a top club and if it was Manchester United, one of the best clubs in the world, that would be a dream. It is a difficult time for the country and for the people and it is not nice when this is happening. Of course the situation is worrying. As a player, you want to be involved and we will have to accept that we will not be paid as much due to what is happening. I am not aware of any offers as my agent deals with this, I concentrate on my football career. I did have an offer last year to go to a Spanish side but in the end it didn't work out. We know that our next step is European football. I would love to play in England, because I like the style of football." --------------------------------- [22] Di Canio's I Love United comments in full --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "Of course, everybody should feel very good when you listen to good words from Sir Alex Ferguson, one of the best managers in the world. We are talking about the best team - alongside Real Madrid in my opinion - in the world. Playing for them has to be fantastic. You have to be happy because the people recognise the job you do and that you are a talent and a character and a personality for playing at the top level. So this makes me very happy, it gives me a big satisfaction because this has confirmed that - apart from the problem I had with Paul Alcock - I did a great job in England." --------------------------------- [21] Hardly a surprise though --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: The trouble at Cardiff-Leeds. Think everyone saw it coming - we watched the coverage on the news a bit bewildered as Leeds fans complained about their treatment and how they'd been picked on and attacked. Our reasoning was it all looked much the same as when we leave Elland Road and do the press ever show the antagonism shown towards Reds then? O'Leary thinks refs are picking on Alan Smith. "Alan was harshly done by, disgracefully done by. The referees show no benefit of the doubt with him, they jump on him straight away. There have been times when they have quite rightly sorted him out, but on other occasions he is a victim. To me they now have an agenda. There were tackles beforehand, one especially which nearly broke Rio Ferdinand's ankle, and tackles afterwards on Jonathan Woodgate and others which went unpunished. If Alan Smith had made them then I wonder if he would have received the same lenient treatment as the Cardiff offenders? You only have to look at the game at West Ham the other night, when there were tackles by players and nothing happened, yet one challenge from Smith and he gets a yellow card straight away. "That's because I believe when they (referees) are enjoying their recreation on the sunbeds or swimming up and down a pool and talking together in their free time, there is an agenda with Alan Smith. They all have their little chats and jump o! n him very, very quickly. I'll keep an open opinion on whether they will change their mind on Alan Smith." --------------------------------- [20] Deja vu and a first? --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Fergie's all singing and dancing routine on the pitch with the winner had us lovingly look back to that Sheffield Wednesday waltz - see, it's all about the omens you see. Good vibes that is rather than a satanic figure overtaking the world on judegment day. Oh, and Chadwick the sub was subbed. Is that a first for United? --------------------------------- [19] Transfer gossip --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Sunderland keen on Yorke too, according to the Star. --------------------------------- [18] FA Cup odds --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: 7-2 Cup favourites with William Hill. Newcastle are 5-1, Arsenal 7-1, Chelsea and Liverpool 15-2, Tottenham 10-1, Fulham 12-1 and Everton 14-1. http://www.sportingodds.co.uk/adserver/scripts/ict.dll?click?rnews0 Sporting Odds --------------------------------- [17] Fergie on bringing on Ruud --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "At that point I had to make the substitution. I didn't want to do it because Ruud has suffered from a groin injury. He came on and the whole game changed." --------------------------------- [16] Fergie on last night --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "The second half was a fantastic cup-tie and I thought we were extremely unlucky to be down." --------------------------------- [15] Euro round up --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Bastia 0 Nantes 2 --------------------------------- [14] Team from last night --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Carroll, PNeville, GNeville, Blanc, Silvestre, Beckham, Butt (Chadwick , Van Nistelrooy), Keane, Veron, Scholes, Solskjaer . Subs not used: Van Der Gouw, Stewart, O'Shea. Booked: Blanc. --------------------------------- [13] Latest transfer gossip --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Cuddly Pete seems to have given the ok for the Forlan bid, West Ham have turned down a £1.5m offfer for Di Canio. Boro still top favourites to get Dwight. Roeder said: "We turned down a bid from Manchester United for Paolo Di Canio on Friday night. The ball is now in their court. I want this laid to rest one way or the other." --------------------------------- [12] Red News deadline --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: The deadline for the new issue - 83 - is Thursday so if you have any articles/letters/thoughts/graphics on everything and anything let us know. We'd luv it, truly luv it if you have any contributions. We've also been blighted by a few computer problems - if only it was as easy as in the films (and I don't just mean adult ones) - so have lost a few bits of date like e.mail addresses and anything that might have been sent over Xmas, so if you sent us anything and didn't hear a reply - it wasn't just because of lazyitis, so please send anything in again. Get those creative juices flowing... [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------- [11] John Gregory takes it well then --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Open message to Villa fans... 'Dear Villa Fan After tonight's devastating defeat against Manchester United, I find it very difficult to find the right words to be honest. I just can't believe that we've gone from a deserved 2-0 lead to lose the game 3-2. To allow them back in it was a disaster, but to allow them to win the game, that's hard to take. The first goal was a killer. At 2-0, I couldn't honestly, hand on heart, see them getting back into it. I think Solskjaer's goal was really the first shot on target they had and we always had a game on our hands from that moment on. Up until that moment, at 2-0, I could in fact see us going onto score three, because it had become a very open game. United were obviously pressing to try and get back in the game, but we were breaking and at time outnumbering he Manchester United defenders. Had we been a bit better at keeping possession, we could have gone onto take a 3-0 lead, which I felt was more likely to happen than them getting back in it. We'd done everything well up to that stage. We actually were doing better in the second-half than we'd done in the first. We conceded a lot of ground to United in the first-half and maybe showed them a bit too much respect, which is sometimes difficult when you play against the quality they've got. But we certainly were doing very well. We deserved to be 2-0 up and we were without doubt in control of the game and in control of our own destiny at the time. Without a doubt, we handed them the opportunity of getting back in the game and I'm still finding it very difficult coming to terms with the fact that we've not won the game. Up The Villa John Gregory' --------------------------------- [10] Berti Vogts not in United frame? --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Kuwait boss but good friend of Fergie? "There are two possibilities - I could stay here as manager or I could go elsewhere. There have been enquiries from two other countries who want me to be their manager, and there are two clubs who have contacted me. At the end of this month I will talk to them as well as the Scottish FA. Scotland has a big football tradition, and I would really enjoy working there. But I have a contract in Kuwait and I have to first talk to them. At the end of January I will be talking to the Scottish FA again, and and maybe it is possible to go there on July 1 when my contract ends." --------------------------------- [9] Roeder hopeful about Di Canio --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "Hopefully...we will still have Paolo Di Canio. I expect him to be fit to play for us at home to Leicester on Saturday." --------------------------------- [8] Fergie hint --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: Read into this what you will - but is it a Di Canio like rumour about not wanting to miss the FA Cup being cup-tied for a new club Fergie: "I'm disappointed with the way Dwight pulled out with an injury" or does he mean he's disappointed that Dwight had the injury and we're reading too much into it...? --------------------------------- [7] David James on life after Di Canio? --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: "As far as West Ham are concerned it is an opportunity for younger players to come in and stake their claim for a regular place. 'J' scored two great goals yesterday and has been playing well while he has been in the side, and hopefully, if he can maintain that sort of form, you've got a possible replacement there, for argument's sake. Paul Kitson has come on and done his bit, and as a team we have got to look after who we have got in the side; if Paolo is not here we have to get on and do what West Ham have to do, which is improve and climb the table." --------------------------------- [6] This Believe stuff is starting to spread --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by bar-knee: As you know we've been bestowing this 'believ'e optimism about United's chances for some time, even in a so called 'crisis'. Keeping the faith seems to have paid dividends, the latest in a recent fun set of adventures with a trip down deja vu memory lane at Villa Park - 2-0 down and 3-2 up. Even at 2-0 I hadn't lost faith - did we deserve to be 2 down. Could we win. Yep, and we did. This team, to coin the cliche and toss it up in the air, never gives in. People can try and take the edge off the victory by slagging off the invasions on the press and radio - and how the authorities can so readily castigate after so readily allowing the late kick off in the first place - but although we won't go as far it all seemed to have an air of 1999 about it last night, the result, its manner and significance will have a bearing come the end of the season. And anyone seeing the Beckhams going wild at the end of the match in the Utd end - well, do you then really question if the son is going! to stay. All is looking good in the garden of eden. Apart from my hangover that is. --------------------------------- [5] THRILLA AT THE VILLA --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by redend: THRILLA AT THE VILLA by Plypin, Alex Unlike the aptly-named motty, I am not a big fan of 7pm KOs on a Sunday evening. His opening remark `If this is what Sunday evening football is about, give me more' comes straight out of the lexicon of the Great Hairy Ape - although the beeb did not have the gall to try to explain that the odd KO time as being as the result of some police directive. In fact, I imagine that the Birmingham Constabulary were mightily pleased at the prospect of 8000 Reds on the lash for a full 6 hours before the game. I am also not encouraged by commentators' statements as to the number of aeons since the opposition has prevailed against us, as this generally precedes some minor correction in the order of things. So, with 15 minutes to go, I was not in the most optimistic frame of mind, as the the possibility of a Double (PROPER) Treble - especially bearing in mind the custodian of the opposition's net. What happened next is getting to be something of an inevitability, and puts me in mind of the last minute comeback against the mickies in '99. Whilst JSV seems to move around more like a PSV, RVN is beginning to look like the most complete centre foward that I have ever seen. For every William Prunier or Ralphie Milne in the lodestone, SAF seems to manage to unearth a wealth of riches. PS I'm all for a return to the 80s, but it's going to be fences if people can't keep off the pitch - especially during the game. Even worse, officialdom might come up with another of its imaginative punishments - a trip to Plymouth for a home game? --------------------------------- [4] Judging by ... --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by redend: .. the lack of news here it looks like today's news editor over indulged after last's nights match. I can confirm however that unlike the aptly named "detainee", and a few other well known faces, he was not assisting West Midlands Police with enquiries following the "party on the pitch" after the goals and at the end of the game. Full news to come shortly. --------------------------------- [3] Van Man .... --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by redend: ... out of context quote: Ruud, who's now bagged 10 in seven, is slightly puzzlingly quoted only as saying: "I never thought that we'd concede a goal because they didn't have a chance." Something missing there but maybe he was busy and wanted to get back to nursing his groin. --------------------------------- [2] Fergie #2: Meeting old friends #2 --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by redend: Fergie wiped a nostalgic tear from his eye as he pondered the possiblity of coming up against another old friend (Julian Clary snigger) in the cup following the fightback against Schmikes's Villa and now the potential pairing with McLaren's Boro. Fergie espoused this view: "It's incredible to play against my former assistant, possibly. "The important thing is just to be in it because with 20 minutes to go, we weren't. That's the great thing about the cup, the uncertainty of it." --------------------------------- [1] Fergie: Ruud, Groin, Fantastic --------------------------------- Posted Monday, January 7, 2002 by redend: Fergie spoke to the BBC after the 3-2 comeback v Villa saying how he was reluctant to bring Ruud on as, as Glenda Hoddle would say, he's "got a groin". Quiet, the Boss is talking: "The second half was a fantastic cup tie and I thought we were extremely unlucky to be down. "At that point, I had to make the substitution. I didn't want to do it because Ruud has suffered from a groin injury but he came on and the whole game changed." --------------------------------- [23] Cheers boys! --------------------------------- Posted Sunday, January 6, 2002 by tb: Thanks to Robbo and Pally for the 4th round draw below: Brighton or Preston v Sheffield United Rotherham or Southampton v Crewe or Sheffield Wednesday Charlton v Walsall or Bradford Southend or Tranmere v Cardiff Gillingham v Bristol Rovers Grimsby or York v Wycombe or Fulham Darlington or Peterborough v Newcastle Coventry or Spurs v Stockport or Bolton Norwich or Chelsea v West Ham Milwall v Barnsley or Blackburn Cheltenham v Burnley Everton v Leyton Orient West Brom v Leicester City Wimbledon or Middlesbrough v Manchester United Ipswich v Manchester City Arsenal v Liverpool Ties to be played on the weekend of 26 and 27 January. --------------------------------- [22] Just like watching Brazil! --------------------------------- Posted Sunday, January 6, 2002 by tb: You may find this difficult to believe, but the above words were uttered by one John (ooh, St Michael) Motson on describing our comeback against Villa. 2-0 up and f***ed it up, Villa is our name --------------------------------- [21] Roeder has his darkness lifted --------------------------------- Posted Sunday, January 6, 2002 by tb: As the 'ammers confess that they turned down an offer for Di Canio on Friday. Back in your court cuddly Pete!
