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2020-09-07 Thread sschwarzer
I'm not against having weekly posts. I was implicitly assuming that due to limited resources weekly posts may not be possible. In other words, I meant we should have _at least_ monthly posts. :-)

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2020-09-07 Thread Araq
We used to have a "this month in Nim" and vlog developer updates. We should do them again. I'm not really sure why efforts like these come and go. I do know that my live streaming sessions stopped with Corona. :-)

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2020-09-07 Thread Stefan_Salewski
> Yes, a regular blog post would be great. It doesn't have to be weekly It really should be weekly! In old days tv stations played Columbo weekly, and we all remembered the week day and watched it. Our physical garbage collector truck comes monthly, and it is really hard to remember. Another

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2020-09-06 Thread sschwarzer
@Stefan_Salewski: > No, there is nothing wrong with them. Maybe moron is not a good term -- I > just recently learned that term, maybe Araq taught me. Lesson: Don't use words or phrases you don't know well. :-D If in doubt, look up words in a dictionary. I do this all the time, even if I'm "rel

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2020-09-06 Thread Lutins
The community isn't robust enough to foster such an attitude unless we're fine with being seen as the amish of the world of programming languages, much like how the suckless.org community is in the domain of GNU/Linux software. The simple answer to attracting more people is by

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2020-09-06 Thread saem
Hi, I'm very new to Nim, so far it's been an interesting experience. I'll provide my perspective, not to debate it, instead, to share what it's like as I bump into walls and try to figure things out. My relevant background My day job is managing programmers so all my actual programming time is

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2020-09-06 Thread Stefan_Salewski
Yes, but I think someone must answer the questions. Some years ago Araq does it often himself in IRC, but I think now Araq prefers to do real work. When I looked at IRC logs last time, maybe in June, Mr disruptec did most of answering. And as far as I know he is a hired devs for incremental comp

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2020-09-06 Thread Stefan_Salewski
And another important point for more users would be a weekly blog reporting news about developing and also about some internals. People are always curious New packages, new language features, important fxed bug, hired or fired devs, how donations are spent... So people will came back each week

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2020-09-06 Thread SolitudeSF
> IRC logs where full of such questions in the last months you can filter most of them out by blocking discord relay

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2020-09-06 Thread cblake
> already a few of such unskilled people who refuse to read books or tutorials > can block the work of the Nim devs with their questions Something neglected in this analysis is that as the community grows, the core devs will not _need_ to answer questions as much. As long as growth is broad-spe

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2020-09-06 Thread Stefan_Salewski
> What's wrong with people No, there is nothing wrong with them. Maybe moron is not a good term -- I just recently learned that term, maybe Araq taught me. Before I may have thought it is a fruit or a cake :-) But the fact is that already a few of such unskilled people who refuse to read books

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2020-09-06 Thread hugogranstrom
I agree, pictures is a very effective way to get people's attention and to convey information. [Julia's](https://julialang.org/) website got a "Ecosystem" section if you scroll down just a bit where they showcase a picture or animation from each one of its most common areas. Something along the

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2020-09-06 Thread JPLRouge
Hello, I think you are disgusted because for a while now there have been conversations where the criticism of Nim gets carried away, moreover unfairly ... as for GINTRO your work is enormous, and the lib. GTK is one of the most coherent, Multiplatform, where the object is really practiced there,

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2020-09-06 Thread sschwarzer
Stefan, I _really_ liked your post - until the last paragraph. What's wrong with people coming to a new technology ("new" from their perspective) and asking questions to find out if they want to continue with this technology? In my opinion, there's nothing moronic about that, but it's completely

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2020-09-06 Thread deech
> Of course such pics will attract mostly morons ... This attitude will destroy any potential community no matter how good the tech or how pretty the pictures.

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2020-09-06 Thread Stefan_Salewski
I recently thought about the reason why gintro has only about 100 github stars and so few users. One reason is obviously that the package has a long textual description but only a few tiny pictures. Adding a file dialog pic and maybe a pic of my chess game would help for sure. The same is even