Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-05 Thread stewart mackenzie
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Michael Raskin <7c6f4...@mail.ru> wrote: > This is called "breaking many use cases for email". This means I cannot > write email on a blackboard in the beginning of a talk. Not so, I issue an Interest packet which floods into the network and finds you. The Interest

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-05 Thread stewart mackenzie
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michael Raskin <7c6f4...@mail.ru> wrote: >>* you can't make a viable security model - secure pipes vs secure >>data. (spam still gets through, network is blind to the data) > > You cannot solve spam problem just by switching protocols without > breaking a ton of com

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-05 Thread stewart mackenzie
The main problems NDN solves are: TCP is inherently a conversational point-to-point network. We now do content dissemination over a point-to-point network as a side effect. It doesn't work well in 3 ways: * you can't make a viable security model - secure pipes vs secure data. (spam still gets thr

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
No, NDN is so much more than solving the problem of self-signed certificates. This talk sums it up nicely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZMoY3q2uM All hail Van Jacobson! On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Michael Raskin <7c6f4...@mail.ru> wrote: > The way I understand it, NDN is designed to bre

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
Yes indeed NDN will change, as does everything :-) I love the idea of adding NDN as a retrieval method. The way I understand it, NDN has a concept of a face, which is designed to talks over different protocols. In other words NDN /becomes/ your multiprotocol non-centralized thingy-ma-gig. Anothe

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
(blast it, some key shortcut sent the previous email before I was ready) 100% Reproducible Hydra builds NixOS already has a very impressive track record in delivering quality reproducible services via AWS and other cloud platforms. The secret sauce is NixOps, Nix and most importantly Hydra. Hydra

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
100% Reproducible Hydra builds NixOS already has a very impressive track record in delivering quality reproducible services via AWS and other cloud platforms. The secret sauce is NixOps, Nix and most importantly Hydra. Hydra is the heart and liver that keeps the packages cleanly building and circu

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
I prefer the NDN approach for a number of reasons: * An Alan Kay quote: The Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? Th

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
Possibly so, though maybe limiting the scope of this GSoC project to reproducible builds is a suitable approach? Thus laying the foundation for whatever dissemination strategy to be adopted in future. > On 5 Feb 2015 14:18, "Michael Raskin" <7c6f4...@mail.ru> wrote: > > As for web of trust and NDN

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread Daniel Peebles
It seems like distributed binary trust would be greatly facilitated by an intensional store. Anyone interested in reviving that? On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:34 PM, stewart mackenzie wrote: > Distributed Hydra build support > > NixOS already has a very impressive track record in delivering quality >

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread stewart mackenzie
Distributed Hydra build support NixOS already has a very impressive track record in delivering quality reproducible services via AWS and other cloud platforms. The secret sauce is NixOps, Nix and most importantly Hydra. Hydra is the heart and liver that keeps the packages cleanly building and circ

Re: [Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread Anderson Torres
2015-02-04 10:37 GMT-02:00 Domen Kožar : > Hi all, > > Google Summer of Code 2015 opens registrations on 9th of February for > organizations and closes on 20th of February. We have 5 days to write down > ideas how could a student improve NixOS during his/her summer. > > We've applied last year but

[Nix-dev] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-04 Thread Domen Kožar
Hi all, Google Summer of Code 2015 opens registrations on 9th of February for organizations and closes on 20th of February. We have 5 days to write down ideas how could a student improve NixOS during his/her summer. We've applied last year but didn't get accepted. Let's do our best to give it ano