Re: [nlug] What is?

2010-06-16 Thread Perkins, Jerry
Andrew Farnsworth wrote: Yes, I really want one of these. I have an 18 month old Mac Mini and have been very happy with it. I'm looking at the Server version for $999. I haven''t used the optical drive in a year so I am pretty happy going for the model that has the two hard drives. I am

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Perkins, Jerry
Dave Tomlin wrote: So what distro are you guys using? It seems that most of you are using Ubuntu. I was an Ubuntu fan thru 9.04, but am now using Fedora 13. So far its been great. Debian. Very stable. Tried Ubuntu on my laptop, but found little problems that just drove me nuts, so I

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread gk
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:21:16 -0500, Perkins, Jerry je...@jperkins.us wrote: Arch Linux, Sabayoon 32/64 bit kde4 and Gnome, VM's OBsd, FBsd,, -- Remember, it's not that we have something to hide; it's that we have nothing to show. --Keep tunneling. -- You received this message because

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread JMJ
On 06/16/2010 09:07 AM, ./aal wrote: I used RH5.0 till I moved to Mandrake5.1 and stayed there till Mandriva(ew) I started with Mandrake 6.0 or 6.5, somewhere in there, and I'm still using primarily Mandriva 2010. However, I do have a box using Kubuntu Studio. (Ubuntu + Kubuntu + Ubuntu

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread j...@coats.org
I am still using Ubuntu 8.04LTS ... It has a few issues, but in working well overall. Once 10.xLTS comes out I may need to upgrade or find another distro. I tend to run old hardware, so code bloat kills me, and 8.04LTS is about the right mix of meat and 'cream' for me. I just looked, and

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread JMJ
On 06/16/2010 12:01 PM, Robert Wohlfarth wrote: I've not seen a difference between Ubuntu's GUI and CLI. Both prompt for a password when performing administrative functions. On the back end, the GUI uses sudo too. Perhaps I've not been clear, let me try again... When using the CLI su

[nlug] JOB POSTING - Linux Administrator

2010-06-16 Thread Steve
Franklin American Mortgage is looking to hire a new Linux Systems Administrator to join our team. This position is for the Cool Springs area office, and NOT a telecommute job. We are the 14th largest mortgage company in the country currently and privately held with only 1 owner. We are a heavy

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Robert Wohlfarth
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to make a big deal of this, I'm just whining. Most Ubuntu users are surely happy with it as is and never need the root account. I, however, just don't see the need for this departure from the usual way of doing

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Greg Jones
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to make a big deal of this, I'm just whining.  Most Ubuntu users are surely happy with it as is and never need the root account. I, however, just don't see the need for this departure from the usual way of doing things. They

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Michael Chaney
To get you where you want to be ( su - ) when using Ubuntu try: $ sudo -i your password Good one - I always have just used sudo bash. Hmm, bash is easier to type than -i. Michael -- Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr. mdcha...@michaelchaney.com http://www.michaelchaney.com/ -- You received this

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread JMJ
On 06/16/2010 02:21 PM, Robert Wohlfarth wrote: The cool thing about unix (and Linux specifically) is that there's more than one way. The operating system works for you - not the other way around. Exactly! [thumbs up] JMJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[nlug] su vs sudo, was Distro

2010-06-16 Thread JMJ
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... perhaps part of the reason that I don't see the point in how Ubuntu has implemented root/su/sudo/etc. is that I assume that sudo provides the same functionality as su.  I'll be researching that now.  :-) OK, I think I'm

Re: [nlug] Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Jack
Sudo can be VERY flexible when properly configured and good security is done on machines. In the past I have helped set up machines so some users can do some things, other users can issue other commands or run scripts, all dependent on the groups to which they belong. At least in the past the

Re: [nlug] su vs sudo, was Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Howard White
On 06/16/2010 05:20 PM, JMJ wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM, JMJroadr...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... perhaps part of the reason that I don't see the point in how Ubuntu has implemented root/su/sudo/etc. is that I assume that sudo provides the same functionality as su. I'll be researching

Re: [nlug] su vs sudo, was Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Evan Brown
Don't fight the force, Luke. One of those temporary root accesses is: sudo su - which essentially logs you in as root without having an actual root account to go about rooting. Now, the knowledgeable amongst us may point out that this obscurity is not adding any major security to your

Re: [nlug] su vs sudo, was Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Howard White
On 06/16/2010 07:22 PM, Evan Brown wrote: please don't sudo su - please use sudo -s -- U, now we have a thread going :) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-616026.html Would you mind expounding as to why?? Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [nlug] su vs sudo, was Distro

2010-06-16 Thread Evan Brown
Would you mind expounding as to why?? tested on my machine, with ps results cut down of course... sudo su - root 8074 1.3 0.5 4064 1508 pts/0S20:26 0:00 su - root 8080 1.0 0.6 4204 1768 pts/0S20:26 0:00 -su sudo -s root 8029 8.0 1.2 5616