Also, it is a good idea to periodically restore files from backup onto a test box and make sure they are usable (for practical reasons, this will probably need to be spot checks). In the 1990s, I was the sysadmin and sole developer for a small company. The main hard drive went bad, which wasn't detected for a couple of weeks because of the files affected. The backup system didn't report any errors, because it was making an accurate copy of the data passed to it. Unfortunately, it was making an accurate copy of already-corrupted data. We had to replace the bad hardware, restore from two-week-old backups, then reenter everything that had been done during that two weeks. It took a month of overtime, for me and for the office staff, to get totally up-to-date.

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On October 25, 2015 4:21:13 PM andrew mcelroy <sophri...@gmail.com> wrote:

I remember you on list, Xor. I even think you went to a install fest or two.

In this day & age, it sounds like Docker or puppet/chef would be an
excellent choice for the environment you describe. It would also
answer the documentation question. Also, I think Wesley and everyone
else raised some excellent points.

From a business owner perspective. It sounds like what they really
want is to fill in their business continuity plan.
They might be considering what happens if Xor disappears or what
happens if our hosting catastrophically fails.


Andrew McElroy
NLUG President/ Fearless leader < 11 something? >

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:05 PM, xor <johnw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for all the help guys and taking the time to respond.  I've made note
of all the suggestions, and I'll definitely use them when I talk with my
client next week.  Wesley asked for some more details, and so here they are.

This really is an easy system to administer.  Its a very small company.
Basically I am their entire system support staff, and I do a large part of
their software development.  It is a startup company, and so they don't have
much money to spend, so I try to keep their costs down by not doing anything
that isn't asked for or needed.  Any QA is done by me and one other person
who does Jitterbit stuff.

Here it is in a nutshell.  All of their servers are running in Rackspace
VMs.  Two servers used in production, one running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and the
other running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  They are basically stock systems.  The
12.04 system has Jitterbit 5 Server installed, which is a proprietary Java
based server.  The 14.04 server has Tomcat 7 and PostgreSQL 9.3 with an Java
application I wrote running in Tomcat.  Nothing else.  This is why I've felt
comfortable just updating from the distribution because there really isn't
any more to it than that.

We have a couple of non production servers that someone who uses Jitterbit
does for testing Jitterbit operations.  With those, we have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
running Jitterbit 8 Server, and we have PostgreSql 9.3 and Tomcat running on
a CentOS 6.7 machine.  I have the same Tomcat app running on the CentOS 6.7
machine.

That is it in a nutshell.  Nothing special.

 I was contracted to do development work, but its turned into a lot of
system admin work too.  BTW most of you don't know me, but I've been a
member of NLUG since the late 90s when Andy was prez.  (Thanks for the help
BTW.)  I even used to have an nlug.org email forwarding address & an NLUG
name badge.  Remember those?  Now I mostly just lurk here.  Hello Mark.
Whatever happened to Prof Sunshine?  ;-)

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